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I currently have Sony 6 inch,160w, 3 way co-axial speakers in my rear shelf, but b4 u wander y, they were on a great deal when i got my head unit, and despite not being 6x9 are bassy as f u c k .
They are excellant speakers, but I feel my tunes could be better.
I have seen in my local Sony centre, some Sony, 4 way, 200w, 6x9's for about £49.99, from about £85.
Anyone reccomend these, or do u suggest any others, that aint gonna mean living off beans for a month!!! ha ha ha :confused: ;) :D

[ 06-04-2001: Message edited by: Graham ]
 

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i have some sony 180 watt 3 way 6x9 speakers and they are extremely loud and bassy (ive even had some1 ask me if i had a sub in once!! which i dont :D)so i assume the 4 way 200 watt ones are even better!!

[ 08-04-2001: Message edited by: bleasy ]
 

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True, true.......
Although, in my, and my speakers deffence, one of my mates sat in the back b4, and i cranked the volume up a bit, and he even asked me if I had a sub, which i dont, and at that time he had 2 12 inch subs in the rear of his Escort, so i was chuffed that he thought i had one!!!

The quality of the sounds is very good, but i am maybe thinkin that if i put a new pair of 6x9's on the rear shelf, i could try and mount the 6 inchers under the rear grilles to the edge of the parcel shelf, where factory fit speakers are normally housed in the rear.
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Kewl....
My head units pumps out 4x40w, and at the moment runs the two standard dash mounted speakers, and the rear 6 inchers, but if i run this setup plus the 6x9 will it cope?
i dont wanna f u c k around with an amp and all that, as long as enough power splits to all of the 6 speakers, and gives me enough sound fill around the car, thats all i want, a nice bit of bass, treble and clarity...
I DONT want huge boomin boy-racer 'humpa-humpa-humpa'Ministry of Boy Racer bass wobbling me number plates off, just loud, clear and a good hump of bass... :D
 

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My headunit (sony CD) is also putting out 4x40 watts, the front channels power the standard tweeters in the dash + speakers in the front doors and the rear channels power the 6x9's.

I'm no expert so i dont know how well the setup you describe would work, maybe replacing the current 6"ers with the 6x9s might be a better option?
 

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my set up is, kenwood head unit (4x44w) powerin the two standard speakers in the dash and two 130w 6" kenwood speakers in the door and a pair of 180w sony 6x9's on the parcel shelf. all without an amp and it sounds good enuff for me.

hope this helps
 

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Sweeet.......
I want a balance of rear volume and punch, without the need for amps galore, and subs cramming my boot.
Just a good bit of volume, bass and treble, 'cos I listen to such a wide range of music, i dont want a system that only sounds decent with one type.
I was considering the possibility of replacing the 6 inchers on the rear shelf with the Sony (or equivelant) 6x9's, and getting some dooor builds to house the 6 inchers...but as I am doin this all on a bit of a budget (understatement of the year!) then this is likely to be out of the question at the moment anyway.
Any opinions lads?
:confused: :D

[ 10-04-2001: Message edited by: Graham ]
 

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I rate MB Quart.
Components are alittle more expensive, but the 6x9's you can't really ignore them at their prices.

I used to run a Calibra 16v and installed the following spec

Kenwood PS9060-R Head unit £500
Kenwood CD803 Changer in glovebox £400
Phenoix Gold QX4150 Amp on rack in boot £320
MB-Quart RSB218 Components (in sound deadened doors + competition crossovers )£300
MB Quart DTC 169 6x9's 3way £100 in stealth shelf. £180
Rockford Fosgate cables through-out.

Everything looked like Vauxhall had put it there. :)
 

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Exactly Paul mate!

U know its there, and u can hear the quality, but everything looks as if Mr. Vauxhall put it there, full of the cheapest, tackiest, plastic filled crap he could lay his hands on......

Whereas u know u have a few £k's of top notch tune reproducing material hidden everywhere mate.

i want one of those stalth shelves, but whilst doin my project on a severe budget, the type of budget Posh Spice would blow on a pair of crotchless Gucci pussy-huggin' thongs, then £90 for a rear shelf, compared to the £100 i am lookin at sourcin' some Vauxhall alloys for sort of puts it into perspective dont it....

Oh well, maybe someday.....
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I noticed you were on a budget, but i thought might be of interest.

I built up my system slowly over the years, upgrading here and there, moving it from car to car.

The Changer used to be fitted in my 1.0 Nova, then an Escort Ghia, then the Calibra. My mates now got it in a Corsa.
 

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I am also thinking of upgrading my rear 6x9's which are cheap Boss ones at the moment, and although the bass is good they cannot take higher range sounds at all well.

These Sony 4 way 200w 6x9's sound good -
I have seen them here - http://www.timeandtune.com/acatalog/Shop_Sony_XS_5694_825.html

at £52.99 - are these the right speakers and is that a good price??

Cheers,

Stuart

[ 29-04-2001: Message edited by: sjmorgan ]
 

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...long as enough power splits to all of the 6 speakers, and gives me...
Graham, be carfull how many speakers you connect to your headunit.. the amp in the headunit is designed to run speakers at 4ohms
if you loop the speakers through this will increase/decrease the ohmage and cause your amp to die an early death..

it depends how you wire it though first option is:

(-) to speaker 1
(+) to speaker 4

and and then (-) to (+) loop through 1-2 2-3 3-4

Second Option you could put the (-) and (+) to 1 and then loop both through to 2 etc..

The second way is a bad way to do it.. the first is the best..
 

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Just like to say that for £29 you wont go wrong with the Phillips GTM 9... advertised in this months MAX POWER and Fast Car. They were rated higher than every other 6x9 tested and for £29 (formally £80)and pumping out 200w 3-way style with superior build quality it has to be worth a look.
 

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Graham, you can put 6" speakers straight into the doors of a Nova, so long as you don't mind chopping up the door cards - did this on an old 1.2 Nova with some 6" Sony 3 ways and it sounded pretty good. Then put the 6x9s in the back and it'll sound pretty good!
 

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A question to all you car stereo enthusiasts. Have you actually compared a head unit amp with a small external one? Well, I have to admit to you the difference is amazing. It isn't all to do withloudness either. With an amp the sound is crisper, more detailed, and more precise on the bass notes. Also, if you do want to turn it up, you don't have to turn the bass down like you have to on many HU.

I have the sony 50x4 CD HU and it's good but it's just got no volume and fullness. I've added one 4 channel amp, wired all speakers to them and then you'll have a symphony orchestra in yer car.

No-one said, big amps have to be run at high volumes do they?

You could pick up a small budget amp for £60, get a wire kit from the market £10 and then you'll really hear the benifit of those sony 6x9's.

Not sounding to be too nagging but did you know what causes speakers to blow - this is in most cases? Well, without an amp you are more prone to distortion as the amp is small and that's what blows tweeters etc.

Hope you all get yer systems sorted soon.

BTW, anyone got the order number of those sony 200 watt ones, might like a pair on my parcel shelf.

mark
 

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I had a set of 3 way sony 6*9's in my old nova and have a set of alpine 6*9's on a stealth shelf in my current one. I have peeps asking if i have a sub all the time, as the novas boot is pretty much the perfect size to act as a sealed enclosure for the speakers (moreso for the alpines than the sonys)so they will drop pretty low, and sound kool.
Making a DIY stealth shelf is easy graham. Get the standard shelf, and put the speakers underneath, using nuts and bolts to 'hang' it from the shelf-using MDF rings to mount it sufficiently below so the tweeters dont poke up past the shelf (leaving the grilles off). Then get some proper acoustic carpet ( 20 odd squid a roll) and cover the whole shelf with it. It will look factory if u get the correct color carpet. Many peeps cant tell if i have any from outside , so the scum doesnt know your expensive speakers are there at all. If u r gonna be at castle coombe i'll show u mine so u can see what i mean. better than paying £90 for a 'proper' one!!


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would that only work with the standard carboard kinda shelf,

ive sunken my kenwood 6x9s in already but im planning on making a MDF shelf cos this one rattles like mad and has a tendancy to jump out of the housings,

i dont think i need more bass though cos my box gives out enough to make the back window vibrate and the number plate rattle,
 

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You can put speakers into your standard shelf and carpet it, but the point of a stealth shelf, as with any MDF shelf is that it is solid. The standard ones are so flexible that the speakers don't have a chance of working properly!
 
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