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Picture the scene. I'm driving around Coventry and surrounding areas, late at night, trying to work off some frustration, and looking for likely victims.

After annoying an escort rs2000, a focus and a mondeo, I was beginning to think i'd not see anything likely to give me at least a contest.

that was until I spotted a Sierra Cosworth on a roundabout about 1/2 mile ahead. I sped up and caught him up. When I got closer we were in town, so pootling along I got a close look - very low, silver, mint cossie, small Castle Performance sticker on the rear, and a big exhaust. Coming up to the ringroad he booted it, I was ready and got a bit of a run on him, bringing me lvel on his outside getting onto the ringroad - for those of you who know got on by Careys. Although I had the run on him, and expected to fly past, just as I was nosing ahead his speed picked up incredibly to equal mine - then the first bend was upon us - rather quick I think, as both dabbed brakes before powering through at over 80 mph, side by side - I was very close to the car's limit on that bend though - almost some sideways action - not nice at 80+ with barriers either side. So we're fairly equal on braking/handling I think.

Onto the straight, we both power on, but see traffic so slow, and come to a halt at luights - one lane has a car in so I let him sit ahead of me. On green he flys - I don't, well not like he did anyway - I got quick into second to try and get power down on wet road, but his traction is a whole load better, and he's away. He slows up to let me follow, and pulls off, heading towards the bypass (always empty, and a good long straight of about 1 mile. We get onto the bypass (end of Skyblue Way) side by side, and both floor it - and feck me if he didn't pull away like I was standing still:eek:

Now I got to 115mph before the 1st roundabout - a respectable speed for that stretch - but by the time I hit 100 he must've been 8/9 car lengths ahead. His traction was better, but it was a rolling start so I didn't lose too much spinning. That car was awesome in a straight line - who cares that I was as good round corners? I don't - I want a turbo and 4wd NOW:(

Was good fun, and the fords got their own back. Friendly wave at the end, and i'm off home to regale you all with my talelmao

So when I sell the Cav, a cossie will be contending with the intended Cav Turbo I think. (I have raced a Calibra Turbo along the same stretch, and there was little in it).

THE END :D
 

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good stuff matey...nice authoring too :D now i bet he was running 300bhp though :rolleyes: never mind phase 3 kit and a cav turbo :cool:
 

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doesnt actually say what cart he was driving, does mention about selling the cav.

if it was the cav gsi, wtf going on ? they should easily keep in touch with a cossie.
 

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TeddySRi said:
THe cossies are totally cossie!! at least Vauxhall had a crack!
so the pinto bottom end is cossie?
ok :rolleyes:

the only difference is ford put the badge on , vauxhall didnt
 

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rgv_stu said:
the only difference is ford put the badge on , vauxhall didnt
and by god they wanted the badge on our astras. why do you think vauxhall started making the heads, cost and image.
 

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It was the Cav I was driving, and the Cav aint slow at all, and I can drive - this cossie, as Adam suggested, I would guess was in excess of 300Bhp - looked mint too:D and 4wd [probably too.
 

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C20XE also known as the Type KBA cosworth set up.

Cosworth don't allow the badge to be used on cars unless the engine itself has been built by them, like the YB engines were. They just done the head for the XE. They cast it and built the head assemblies.

The YB has steel rods, steel crank and all built up by cosworth.

The YB is a far superior engine to the XE if the truth be known. But! Theres always a but the YB was made for racing and its turbocharged while the XE was just a road engine with a nice head plonked on it and not designed for turbocharging.

Thats why cossies are easy to tune. Good valve sizes, port angles etc etc

They had trouble with the engine getting it down to 200bhp. Even with the crap 2 piece cast iron manifold it was still exceeding 200bhp. They were all rated at 204 bhp, when cosworth rate a power thats the power all engines will at minimum produce.

Thats why you get the occasional 220bhp standard cossie YBB and the occasional 165bhp XE for example. Some engines for unknown reasons make a lot more power than they should.

This has kind of gone off topic ain't it?

Anyway cossies are good, the hard bits trying to find one thats been cared for. And the fact they will more than likely need a bit of work due to age.

Get a sierra unless you go for looks.

Chris
 

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in my view the c20xe engine is one of the best 2.0 16v (obviously non turbo) engines ever bulit.

the c20let (turbo) isnt bad either, designed to be a performance engine with everyday driveability reliable and solid, each one was hand bulit according to vauxhall, should really be faultless! makes 204bhp and techonoly beond its years.
 

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if you ever get the chance to drive a cossie do it

you will see why people rate them, not just performance but the way that they drive from day to day, they are a user freindly engine, easy to go slow and easy to go fast. they are not a dog to drive, infact very refined

my 2p
 

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Good on you Sulli for a non-biased report on your race against a cossie. They are awesome machines in my opinion. I know someone who has one and it really puts my Astra to shame. I raced him at the Pod and I was neck and neck with him halfway up (thought I was doing well). The next second he just takes off and leaves me behind. It turned out he had missed a gear which is why I was neck and neck with him at half way.

A sapphire Cossie will be my next car.
 

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doesnt actually say what cart he was driving, does mention about selling the cav.

if it was the cav gsi, wtf going on ? they should easily keep in touch with a cossie.

I raced a 4x4 cossie in my cav gsi in 4th pulling a ton foot to the floor bastard just sailed past me though I was parked up! Wouldn't mind another go in the turbo this time though
 
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