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actually you're right, i was obviously having a mind fart!

just the lack of mounting lugs confused me as the early carlton ones looked very similar and had different lugs
 

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stt said:
its an early carlton gsi one
They have a row of lamps along the bottom (outside) like other Carlton/senator dashes.
 

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Dont bother, I had that much hassle with mine Ive gone back to analogue clocks again
 
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