Rear Arches :-(

**The Rig** · 19-10-2002 17:48

My rear arches have started to bubble a bit on the paint work, they are not rotten, just bubbling.

would it be worth just rubbing down the bubbled area and treat/respray or are new arches a must ??

How do you fit rear arches, are they cut out and new ones welded on some how or wot ?

Cheers...........

**astraderv** · 19-10-2002 17:55

Catch 'em as quick as you can. The bubbling you see is the tip of the iceberg, unfortunately. It's coming from the inside (where moisture is trapped). Therefore, filling, spraying etc will only ever be temporary. It'll just bleed back through.

Sorry, but there is only one 'proper' fix. Just as you mentioned - it all needs chopping out, with the new repair panel welding in. Then, comprehensively waxed inside by removing the interior trim etc.

I said 'catch 'em quick' because the worse it gets, the harder the job - really rotten arches will be holed on the inside panel also, which means more chopping and welding.

'Tis painfull surgery indeed

**The Rig** · 19-10-2002 17:58

DAMN !!!

Cheers, thought as much

Not summut i can do then no tools and all plus broken wrist, so the garage it is then, i expect vaux would charge a bomb so hunting around for me then

**astraderv** · 19-10-2002 18:01

I'd choose a good bodyshop that restores classics. Most 'spray shops' only deal with new mota's that have dented wings etc. Some will not even touch a car with rust

If you just want to slow it - get in there with the waxoil. It'll wait 'till next summer then, if funds are tight.

**The Rig** · 19-10-2002 18:07

i want to wait as $$$ are tight but i washed the car the other day and one of the bubbles flaked off !!! only small amount so i touched it up with some paint i have from the bumper i put on.

some of the bubbles, about 6 in total are quite large, about 50p size and 5 and 10 p seizes

Now you mentioned it, the inside of the arches are a bit tired, i have pulled part of the lip off the inside away as it was weak and MOT Is due in 4 weeks....

what with a kid, christmas and car repairs all on the way, expensive few months ahead

Cheers matey.......

**astraderv** · 19-10-2002 18:12

As far as MoT's go - just cover the arch lip with Gaffa tape. It'll pass no worries on that. Otherwise, they can fail you on sharp edges.

**Nova_TDi** · 20-10-2002 01:41

Oh dear, that dreaded question

"Vauxhall Arches"

Cut 'em out mate, I tried the old "rub down, treat and spray" but it's no good.

Vauxhall Decided that spot welding two plates of sheet metal together would be a good idea, WRONG...........

As was said, Moisture get's trapped etc etc and it eats from inside out, If you want to see for yourself go inside the car, get the panels off in the boot, then look down where the arch joins.

I got a Nova, and i decided it would be a good idea to do the work myself

WRONG, i totally messed it up and i gotta pay someone to do it now

**cav-mad-gav** · 20-10-2002 02:20

oh dear, so all the rusty bits and flakey bits on my rears arnt a good sign??

ah well, getin rid of it soon, maybe, bit of paint, no one will know

why did vaux spot weld on rear but not front? or if they did on both, y dont the fronts rot?

**Nova_TDi** · 20-10-2002 02:29

Rofl Prepare to Cover your eye's

Oh look, an inoccent little Hole, surely a bit of paint will sort that out

Erm not exactly

A rebuilt arch by myself (hence the wonkyness)

I seem to have lost the photos of the rust, i think i binned them cos they were an eyesore

**Nova_TDi** · 20-10-2002 02:34

Oh btw, about the front arches, they didd'nt spot weld the inner Arch to the outer arch because you would'nt be able to remove it......

the rear 3/4 panel is spot welded to the inner arch because they cannot be unbolted and removed.The front look's pretty much like this (another one of my bodge jobbies)

That Aluminium sheet is in the place of the old Iron one that Vauxh had in originally

**cav-mad-gav** · 20-10-2002 02:37

ooooh, i understand it all now

my Q though, how did you rebuild your own arch? as i wona try that but havnt the foggiest how to go about it, what do i need, how long, how hard etc etc wud be v helpful

ta
+ y u up so l8??

**Nova_TDi** · 20-10-2002 02:40

hmmmmmm, My advice is "get a welder to do it"

what u see there is an adiction to pop rivets and Aluminium

It looks shite in real life

I'm up so late cos i am unemployed due to been stabbed, so basically i can do what i want

wooo hoooooo

**cav-mad-gav** · 20-10-2002 02:41

LOL, gud advice i spose...

u got stabbed!!! when, why, r u ok?

+ being unemployed gets boring after awhile though

ish

**Nova_TDi** · 20-10-2002 02:45

got stabbed in a road rage kurfuffle, some bloke decided to smash my car window and stab me

I'm fine, i was fine, and he's going down **** street for about hmmmmmmmmmm £20,000 compensation

WHAT!!!! You wanted to know lmao

Sorry if any of u are eating right now

**cav-mad-gav** · 20-10-2002 02:47

ouchy!!! so whot did u du to derserve a stabbing??

cut him up, smash his car, sleep with his wife??

though nothing deservers a bloody stabbing.......and wots the money gona go on??

as if a cudnt guess, new arches all round maybe??lmao lmao

**Nova_TDi** · 20-10-2002 02:50

Well for the beating i recieved, shaggin his wife probably would have been well worth it, but unfortunatly i cut him up to avoid a huge accident.

Yes it will be arches all round, W-I-D-E ones too

Seats
Carpet
Roll cage
Engine overhaul
Wheels
Suspension
re-spray
bodykit (already got that)
Tints
Smooth boot
Delock (done that myself)
Neons

etc etc...............

**cav-mad-gav** · 20-10-2002 02:52

sounds likes its gona be a nice mota, shame bout the diesel thing though

only kidin, by arches all round i meant for all the miggers who need um

keep us up 2 dat e with piccies if/wen u get ann the work done

**Nova_TDi** · 20-10-2002 02:55

what u mean "shame about the Diesel Thing"

she's a beast mate, she'll eat most things off the lights and stick with them enough to scare the cráp out of them.

And that's Standard, still got to fit a bleed valve

**cav-mad-gav** · 20-10-2002 02:57

lol, me dads gota cav TD 1.7, i'll admit it goes after 2500-3000 RMP, but WOW the black smoke out the back sure is nice

almost as nice as my blue oil smoke i get from my cav

**Nova_TDi** · 20-10-2002 03:19

Oh dear, Black smoke you say?

mine is clean as a whistle, even when powering down

I got no back seats in a car that weighs as much as an empty crisp packet.

She tend's to lag before 2000rpm, but from 2000 - 5100pm it's sweet acceleration (for a diesel)

0-60 is rattled down to just under 9 sec's and a top end of 120mph on 16"x 7" TSW stealth alloys

**cav-mad-gav** · 20-10-2002 03:24

nice times!! yep, plenty of black smoke

cus of the smoke i dont dare take it past 3500, + the fact its me dads

**The Rig** · 20-10-2002 14:12

cheers guys.
How come none of the photo`s are showing up, just the red x`s ??

Me wanna see piccies !!!!!!

Whats the usual price then for both rear arches to be done ?

**Nova_TDi** · 20-10-2002 14:15

No photos?

Hmmmmmm just go to my photos page My Photos

Go to CAR PHOTOS

**The Rig** · 20-10-2002 14:23

cool, nice car mate.
The job you did aint that bad, pretty good if your not in the trade that is !!

Looks better than the hole, once sprayed it wont look too bad.

Like i said earlier, mine just has bubbles on the paint work, i`ve had a look at he arch on the inside of boot and there aint much rust, just dirt, it seems pretty solid on the inside.

**calibre** · 26-10-2002 10:04

My m8 just had his rear archs for his calibre at ultrafine for £350. He said they did a good job. Give em a bell. Sorry don't have there number but will try and get it for ya.

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