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    Re: Vauxhall Cavalier Super touring #16

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    Re: Vauxhall Cavalier Super touring #16

    I'm glad your sticking with it Naz
    I had an impossible fight wiv the wife when i was thinking about buying it last year when she saw the spec and cost's getting it running for competetive LMA spec
    Have you still got the ex-manifold? that was truely horny

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    Re: Vauxhall Cavalier Super touring #16

    Went to a BRSCC meeting last weekend, saw these LMA cars in action, seems like a comnpetitive series. What is the realistic budget for a season of racing these saloons?
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    Re: Vauxhall Cavalier Super touring #16

    Love them wheels/hubs I bet the cage looks proper sexy to. I take it you can't make it road legal on a Q plate. I know it's really stupid, but it would be so much fun. Love it mate your very lucky.
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    Re: Vauxhall Cavalier Super touring #16

    Hi Yunes

    long time no seen mate!

    They are very very competative at the LMA. And also there is a very huge mixture of cars there, from highley tuned turbos to n/a, from road cars to proper Ex-BTCC cars and ...

    In terms of budget, it really depends on what you drive, and how you want to drive it.

    To give you an example:

    When I raced my calibra with the LMA 2yrs ago, a weekend of racin used to cost me around £500. That included the fuel for the race, race entries and food.

    I used 2 sets of used slicks for the season, although I only did 3 meetings due to problems with the car for the rest of the season. and the used slicks were about £125 per set.

    Obviously this doesn't take into account any accidents you might have.

    Hope this gives you a rough idea. I see from your website you have started racing too, but with the single seaters?!

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    Re: Vauxhall Cavalier Super touring #16

    this box is wot ya need if ya racing it fella



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    Re: Vauxhall Cavalier Super touring #16

    Quote Originally Posted by nariman1977 View Post
    Hi Yunes

    long time no seen mate!

    They are very very competative at the LMA. And also there is a very huge mixture of cars there, from highley tuned turbos to n/a, from road cars to proper Ex-BTCC cars and ...

    In terms of budget, it really depends on what you drive, and how you want to drive it.

    To give you an example:

    When I raced my calibra with the LMA 2yrs ago, a weekend of racin used to cost me around £500. That included the fuel for the race, race entries and food.

    I used 2 sets of used slicks for the season, although I only did 3 meetings due to problems with the car for the rest of the season. and the used slicks were about £125 per set.

    Obviously this doesn't take into account any accidents you might have.

    Hope this gives you a rough idea. I see from your website you have started racing too, but with the single seaters?!
    Its more like a libra race, there was a 700bhp Evo at one end and a 100 bhp Dihatsu turbo on the other end of the scale, did make for interesting racing. The good thing is if you use a popular tyre size you can pick them up from BTCC race teams for pennies, and at this level you do not need new tyres every session.

    Yes, its my first proper season, I dont like tin tops, I find them to soft for my liking, prefer the stifly sprung single seaters. £500 is more of less what I spend at each meeting too, though when I step up to F3 the costs will double to abut 1k per meeting. Still not bad, as its 12 races per year so about 12k budget is still good when you consider the cars that are being raced.

    Looking forward to seeing the progress and pics!! good luck!
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    Re: Vauxhall Cavalier Super touring #16

    F18's have been known to explode in standard vectra 2L's, so much as point to an LET with one and it'll likely break up in your hands! F23's are a good bit stronger, but there's 3 or 4 different versions (diesel/petrol/turbo), and they seem to like eating synchros, and clutch cylinders. They're also cable change instead of rod change.

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    Re: Vauxhall Cavalier Super touring #16

    WOW very nice a like this lol.

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    Re: Vauxhall Cavalier Super touring #16

    Right, today I decided to take the car out and do some more work. But got fed up with having to run an extension cable everywhere to the garage.

    Had a quote from the elec board, and they wanted £5k to run a new supply to the garage! :O

    So I decided to buy a generator instead and do it that way. So today bought a consumer unit for the garage, 2 strip lights and 4 double sockets. Wired them all up and now the garage is noce and lit up ready for the next cavalier work:



    The consumer unit:




    And the poor cavalier:




    However it has not been all not cavalier work:

    Set of discs from a BMW ST arrived a few days ago at the cost of £300 for 5( One rear spare).
    new pair of AP racing 2 pot calipers arrived last week. Bought them from ebay. Cost new from Ap racing £150 each + VAT, got the 2 of them for £160 delivered, brand new! Bargain with pads!

    Took the wheels off, realise the front bearings were knackered. Ordered a new pair of bearings for the front. £120!

    Also a few of the wheel studs are missing. So have had to take one to a machine shop and get them to price it for me.

    Collected a spares set of alloy wheels for the cavalier from a late cav St, but it is a wrong ET. Fortunately some nice bloke from MIG has some early ones we are gonna swap over with mine. £250.

    Have sent the discs to the machine shop to be redrilled as they are 5stud fitment.

    Also have asked them to make me some tubes to make engine mounts with.

    Set of polycarb windows which I bought from P4P through a group buy I sorted out at the beginning of the year. They look quality! £250

    Put a steering arm and rack from a cavalier 1.6 in there. so now I can steer the car in and out of the garage.

    Had to machine some bolts as it is using rose jointed track rod ends and wouldn't fir the std vauxhall unit.£60

    Photos to follow.
    Thats it for now. I will take some photos once I have got all the bits from the machine shop and ready to fit.

    Cost so far £3820

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    Re: Vauxhall Cavalier Super touring #16

    Good update !

    Glad your getting on with it as I can't wait to see the car finished as I'm sure you can't either !

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    Re: Vauxhall Cavalier Super touring #16

    Quote Originally Posted by nariman1977 View Post
    Had a quote from the elec board, and they wanted £5k to run a new supply to the garage! :O

    thats crazy money!!! i work for one of them companies and i say thats shocking unless your garage is several hundred metres away from an underground cable and they will have huge excavation/backfilling costs but even still!

    remember seeing pics of this car before, its some peice of kit. are spares easily had nowadays or will any bumps be expensive? im referring to the suspension arms etc really. they looked very well made

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    Re: Vauxhall Cavalier Super touring #16

    is that a compomotive in ur pic mate? u have the set? 5 stud?
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    Re: Vauxhall Cavalier Super touring #16

    looks like a centre fitting one

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    Re: Vauxhall Cavalier Super touring #16

    Quote Originally Posted by Adam View Post
    is that a compomotive in ur pic mate? u have the set? 5 stud?
    Hi Adam

    No, its a team dynamics I think Dymag or something like that. It is a single nut one.

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    Re: Vauxhall Cavalier Super touring #16

    Quote Originally Posted by kennybarbour View Post
    thats crazy money!!! i work for one of them companies and i say thats shocking unless your garage is several hundred metres away from an underground cable and they will have huge excavation/backfilling costs but even still!

    remember seeing pics of this car before, its some peice of kit. are spares easily had nowadays or will any bumps be expensive? im referring to the suspension arms etc really. they looked very well made
    It is crazy! THe nearest access panel is about 10mtrs away from the front of my garage.

    Then there is the reserve space for a substation next to my garage. So I am thinking there must be some sort of cables under that!

    BUt I don't know! I just know £5k is waaaayyyyy too much.

    As for the spares: depends on what parts:

    All the suspension beams and ... are hand made one off items. So if I stuff it big time, then it is a big problem. But if it is something light, then shouldn't be too bad.

    The rest of the stuff, like bearings and ... are all available off the shelf but at silly prices!

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    Re: Vauxhall Cavalier Super touring #16

    loving the cav

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    Re: Vauxhall Cavalier Super touring #16

    Right, a call today from the fab shop. My bits and bobs are ready:


    1) The AP Racing Calipers:


    Now 2 problems I came accross when tril fitting this:

    a) The caliper was for a disc with minimum width of 25mm. However my rear discs are vented and 19mm. So have had to plit the calipers and get the middle machined down to size. Spoke to AP racing and they were happy with this. So I know it is not gonna casue any problems.

    b) The calipers are off wrong offset. or should I say the disc bells are off wrong offset. So when the discs are sat in the hub, the calipers are way off center.


    2) Brake Discs:



    Right, got the discs back and fitted them. Had to make 2 grub screw holes to fit them to the hub, so I can measure accurately the offset they should be.

    The screws you see are the amount of offset the discs need to go out by to fit the calipers! One option was to have some new bells machined( about £100 each) or other option have some brackets made to bring out the calipers. I have gone for the latter.

    So off I went to the machine shop with the drawings for some brackets.

    3) Engine Mounts:



    The engine is not gonna be sitting where it normally sits. It is slightly lower than the std car and also a bit further back. So the mounts need to be engineered.

    I have had to make couple of tubes where they bolt to the mounts on the chasis rail. Then the smaller tubes at the top of the screen, will bolt to the side of the engine block and gearbox. I will then have to weld some tubes from the bloack to the chasis rail and make up the mounts. All together there are 6 small tubes for the engine block and 2 rubber mounts with tubes for the chasis.

    4) Wheel studs:



    Well as said before, I noticed there were couple of studs missing. So I got the machine shop to make me 4 new ones. to keep a few as spare and also it was cheaper to have 4 made rather than one!

    This is where I am at the moment. Until I get the brackets from the machine shop, I can't do anything else.

    Costs updated in post #2.

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    Collected a spares set of alloy wheels for the cavalier from a late cav St, but it is a wrong ET. Fortunately some nice bloke from MIG has some early ones we are gonna swap over with mine. £250.
    Thats my Bro, will see you at the weekend... also if you need parts machined up i can help.. disk bells as shown above would be about 100 for 2, not 100 each..
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    Re: Vauxhall Cavalier Super touring #16

    Cool.

    Will see you at Silverstone. Will bring the drawing for the brackets as well to see what sort of price you can do it for.

    I am told the bells need to be machined from a special ally otherwise it will just deform under heavy braking ?! Hence the price of £100 each!

    But if I go down the bracket route, then I don't have to worry about the bells anyway!

    Cheers

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    well we can make either so shouldnt be a problem
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    Re: Vauxhall Cavalier Super touring #16

    vxlgsi >> You got pm.

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    Re: Vauxhall Cavalier Super touring #16

    great tidy garage i want i want...

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    Re: Vauxhall Cavalier Super touring #16

    Shame it is a bit narrow! I have to push the car out every time I wanna do some work!

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    Re: Vauxhall Cavalier Super touring #16

    Quote Originally Posted by nariman1977 View Post
    Shame it is a bit narrow! I have to push the car out every time I wanna do some work!
    but tidy well i guess it has to be if you can just get the car in.

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