Corsa Maxi rally car

[robertkassner]

Guys im considering to go wide track the same as you later on this year but wanted to understand what modifications and parts etc i would need to do it?

I guess the body kit is from harry hocklys and is fia approved? do the drive shafts, suspension, bottom arms etc all have to be replaced?

also how is the back arches fitted to the shell and how much cutting of the original arch is there?

sorry for all the questions but just want to make sure that if i do it i have the funds for the whole lot!

Its expensive and seriously time consuming!

From what i can tell there are two ways - like mine: Walden bottom arms (only people to make off the self) but dont go for their tie rods/brackets as they are poo. HHMS tie rods and brackets (group A ones as they fit walden's arms). Longer shafts - you'll have to do some experimentation with these as they are longer than Astra and group A ones so you'll have to get one off ones made. A Walden rear beam (again only people to make them) or get a decent fabricator to weld in a box section to space the hub from the beam. Longer steering arms. Got mine from Walden but they take forever to deliver. they are basically standard arms with a longer tube welded over the arm and a rose joint fitted to the end. You could get some diagrams made up and get some engineering place to make you them. Lastly the strut bodies - this was my major problem and self inflicted **** up. Ordered a new set of Proflex and when i fitted them i got a hell of a lot of camber. So took some measurements and needed the top hole (that attaches to the hub carrier) further out towards outside of the car. Got Proflex Belgium to make them - got delivered and fitted them.
Dropped the car on to its wheels and realised i still had too much camber. Then i realised my mistake, id taken the camber measurement without no weight on the car so the strut was at its full length Luckily Proflex put a camber washer on the top and bottom (thank god) so i just have to put a 1 degree washer at the top to get 0 degree camber (if you know what i mean).
The body kit is FIA friendly and just bolts on.
The other way is to fit a bigger offset of wheel, say ET40.

if you are not mechanically minded and are afraid to get stuck in then i recommend you keep to standard track as there are no off the self parts and its a hell of a ball ache.

hope this helps and i haven't frightened you off the idea.

Rob

[t45_ste]

If you complain to walden they will make you some proper tie bar brackets. I di as their quality was ****e.

Also cheers for mentioning about the heated screens on the group buy.

[robertkassner]

Yeah another thing with them - they said you could fit a sump guard to their brackets, which is a load of bollox. Got Hockly ones now which im well chuffed with.

It'll be nice to get the screens cheaper mate - not sure if ill be allowed to use a polycarb windscreen for rallying though.

[t45_ste]

Yeah the replacment tie bar brackets i got off em had the sump guard tubes. Much better.

[robertkassner]

You must have spoken to them better than i did then!lmao

[Rick Draper]

Robert, why did you not chop the strut tops out as most do when wide tracking there corsa's?

[robertkassner]

After jan 2009 a rally car must retain all original mounting points when not already logbooked. Or so i was told anyway.
Doing this might have caused me problems. I think rear turrets are out of the question to.

rob

[Rick Draper]

Hmm, thanks for that. Will probably be worth me not turreting my shell then at the back as otherwise i am cutting myself off from a market if i decide to sell it.

[robertkassner]

ill have to double check it. The blue book isnt very clear.

My rear coilovers fit without turrets. My mate has also fitted avo rear coilovers to his nova - but his are not 2 1/4.

rob

[donlop]

A Walden rear beam (again only people to make them) i make it to
HHMS make wide track bottom arms but dont go for Walden as they are poo.

[mattyd81]

thanks rob your so good at giving information a credit to this forum. think i may leave it for now... lot of work.. main thing for me is mot and up and running.

mine use to have 1300 engine in so had to move the mounts slightly for 1600 ecotec but mine was log booked about 5 years ago so it should be ok for 2009 rule changes? i hope so...plus how are the scruits going to know where the original fixings were!

ooh and whats this about heated screens im after one of those!!! anywhere cheap?

[robertkassner]

Hi mate,

The only place i can find that do the heated screens for a corsa is ricky evans motorsport - £160.
The p4p ones arnt road legal.

Speak to soon
rob

[Rallycorsa]

Is this finished yet i need some more competitionlmao

[Manxrooster]

Hi everyone
Ricky Evans just put up his heated screen price to £195 + vat !!.....must have got wind people were after them!!!
Harry Hockly want £204 + vat....probably gets them from Ricky.
Any one know any cheaper?

[kennybarbour]

i got a nova screen on a groupbuy arranged by spanishfly on here about a month ago for £140. looks like i was just in time!

he called me up to arrange my payment and was very friendly, even agreeing to postpone the sale a few days until my payday so as to avoid leaving myself short.

screen arrived safely and quickly so id recommend him highly if youre after a screen.

[robertkassner]

Hi everyone
Ricky Evans just put up his heated screen price to £195 + vat !!.....must have got wind people were after them!!!
Harry Hockly want £204 + vat....probably gets them from Ricky.
Any one know any cheaper?

they were only £160 last time i checked!!

Might have a look at putting a heater back in!

rob

[mattyd81]

im having yet more fun with mine trying to actually start it...

its running on mbe 967e management and the loom to the inectors etc is all connected and the engine turns over but its not sparking at all. so were a little confused on why its not...thinking of plugging the latop into the mbe to see whats going on with it.

all we need is that spark and she'll be running!

[simonmarsden]

love it, nice to see it been used for what it was built for

[robertkassner]

im having yet more fun with mine trying to actually start it...

its running on mbe 967e management and the loom to the inectors etc is all connected and the engine turns over but its not sparking at all. so were a little confused on why its not...thinking of plugging the latop into the mbe to see whats going on with it.

all we need is that spark and she'll be running!

Have you got the crank sensor connected up ok? Are the injectors firing?
The engine will turn over without the ecu - so its wired up correctly?

rob

[azzmi]

Is this finished yet i need some more competitionlmao

a little competition from this weekend.

http://www.elk.itu.edu.tr/~azzmi/pics/ss.avi

By the way Astras driveshafts worked well. Thanks again marcel.

[mattyd81]

Hi Rob,

Problem we have is that the person doing it has left the old looms in too so some electrics run off the old and some off the new!

The crank sensor is on and will turn over without the ecu so im not sure why its not firing up Theres definatley no spark from the plugs. When there is no fuel running to the engine would the ecu recognise this meaning that it wouldnt start? Just that we have a t connector in the feed fuel line for the stack fuel sensor, at the mo we dont have a fitting piece so the pump will prime when turning on the cut out switch but when pressing the start button does not at the mo feed the fuel to the engine.

Just by co-incidence who did your electrics? As i could do with paying someone to do them properly. Plus the car is in Grantham so just down the road if you want to pop over.

[robertkassner]

The starter motor is nothing to do with the ecu mate, so it'll try to start with or without an ecu. Also if you have not wired the fuel pump through your ecu (which i think you dont with MBE) that will run when the ignition is on. The ECU only make the Injectors fire and the plugs spark. If you've no spark i think the ecu is not powered.

Also try turning the engine over with the plugs in, then take a plug out and see if its wet with fuel - if it is, then the ecu is working as its firing the injectors, if its dry then......................you get the picture.

Check more than one plug - just incase. When the injectors dont fire all the fuel does is go through the fuel rail, regulator then back to the tank.

My corsa currently has its wiring loom in plastic box kept in the cupboard!!! Im about to start the momouth task soon, Which i aint looking forward to!

I recon it'll be another year until im able to get out and whoop kev's ass!!!!!


Rob

[t45_ste]

Have you spoke to jonlem about having a loom made. Very resonable price and top quality from what ive seen.

[robertkassner]

No mate i haven't. Byron who built the shell offered to make me a aircraft spec loom but with the baby coming in April and our lass going onto maternity pay ive got to start watching the pennies (or in this case Pounds)
Going to have a go myself but once i start i might change my mind lol!!!!

rob

[t45_ste]

Sorry bit of confusion, i think jonlem only does engine looms? Thought thats what you needed

I know exactly what you mean. Iv started putting my fuel system together using aerquip stuff and the cost is starting to sprial!

Wiring isnt that difficult if you get yourself the right tools and a decent drawing to work from.

I also have a contact for lighting looms etc. If you want a quote let me know but im sure you will manage