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    Re: Ronnie's new runaround - Project VAN!

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    Re: Ronnie's new runaround - Project VAN!

    in my experience of these engines , those followers break when there is valve/piston contact , the most obvious thing to check is that your timing is slightly wrong , if you managed to get the autodata stuff on this engine you will see where it says about using a dial gauge to check the camshaft posistion and get the timing right , this is why you always find tipex marks on the pulleys of these engines , cos there arn't any real ones , and no garage wants to go through all the hassle of using the dial gauge to set it all up again , but seeing that you took the cam pully off you have no choice , ive even seen the backplate cut so as to avoid taking it off when doing the head , you cant be far wrong if it was running ok at tick over are you sure you got the crank lined up properly..

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    Re: Ronnie's new runaround - Project VAN!

    Ron stop trying to start it up. The timing is out!!! There is a timing tool kit. Remove the plate that covers the flywheel underneath the car. If you think you have got the crank somewhere near you will see a small arrow on the flywhel. Without the tool you wont be 100% sure if its right. There is a tool that bolts onto them two 11mm bolts that held the plate on. The tool will then align with the arrow on the flywheel. On the cam shaft remove the rocker cover and undo the 13mm bolts that hold the vacuum pump to the head. There is a slit in the end of the cam. You can slide the tool into there and it will lock the cam but without the tool you can slide a 15mm spanner in there and lock it. With the crank timed up and the cam locked. If i remember correctly you put a 13mm bolt in the fuel pump sprocket to lock that up. Slacken that cam sprocket bolt and remove that dowel you made. Make sure the sprocket spins freely on the end of the cam. Put the bolt back in but leave it loose. Time the engine up as usuall, tension the belt and double check your spanner is in the cam and that the arrow is visible on the flywheel and then tighten up the camshaft bolt up. Remove the spanner and turn the engine over by hand and make sure it doesnt stop. If it spins 360o recheck the timing marks and make sure the spanner goes back in and the bolt goes in the pump and if you marked the crank previously check thats right. If all ok refit the rocker cover and vaccy pump and try starting it. I know this explination is **** but its hard to explain. Hope this helps pal.

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    Re: Ronnie's new runaround - Project VAN!

    well im pretty sure the timing is not out.

    the crank has a cut out in the bottom pulley and a cut out in the lip of the block just like the petrol ones



    the fuel pump has a notch in the cambelt cover and a nick out of the pulley (photo on the wonk, but it is aligned)



    and the cam sprocket had been marked up previously, and the cam sprocket is in the EXACT same place as when it came off, no questions asked



    when the crank is in this position 1 & 4 pistons are deffo at top dead centre, checked before the head went on, and when timed up, 1 at tdc, both the valves in 1 and 4 are compleatley closed

    cyl1



    cyl4



    cant get the vacuum pump on, the allen key bolts have been super locktighted in or something and rounded off, but took the flywheel cover off, and there isnt any arrows anywhere!

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    Re: Ronnie's new runaround - Project VAN!

    the marks just tell you where a certain point is, not TDC, also worth noting one turn of the crank is half a turn of the cam, maybe 180 out

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    Re: Ronnie's new runaround - Project VAN!

    Ronnie - when you try and start it does it just turn and turn and turn?

    The reason I ask is that I played with my DTi and it would not start as there was air in the fuel system. due to the leak off pipe design the air was just being pumped around the pump and cylinders and it would not draw any diesel into the chambers to fire.

    the hint I was given was to try and start it with some easy start on which it will run but this will help draw fuel through the pump and then it will start to run on diesel.

    If you can find the diesel leak off return to the pump pull this off and then block it off so that no air can get back into the pump and it is forced to pull fuel through.
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    Re: Ronnie's new runaround - Project VAN!

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Williams View Post
    Ronnie - when you try and start it does it just turn and turn and turn?

    The reason I ask is that I played with my DTi and it would not start as there was air in the fuel system. due to the leak off pipe design the air was just being pumped around the pump and cylinders and it would not draw any diesel into the chambers to fire.

    the hint I was given was to try and start it with some easy start on which it will run but this will help draw fuel through the pump and then it will start to run on diesel.

    If you can find the diesel leak off return to the pump pull this off and then block it off so that no air can get back into the pump and it is forced to pull fuel through.
    yea its starts up fine! fires straight into life, till you rev it....

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    Re: Ronnie's new runaround - Project VAN!

    Quote Originally Posted by GBE86 View Post
    the marks just tell you where a certain point is, not TDC, also worth noting one turn of the crank is half a turn of the cam, maybe 180 out
    its runs spot on when its started up! no problems, rev it a bit and bang snapped rockers!

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    Re: Ronnie's new runaround - Project VAN!

    Thats rather strange! are they your original rockers or the ones that came with the head ? i can do some investigating if you like
    The cake is a lie :(

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    Re: Ronnie's new runaround - Project VAN!

    the first two were the ones that came with the head, then i put my origional lifters and rockers in, and it did another one!

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    Re: Ronnie's new runaround - Project VAN!

    I suspect the cam isn't aligned to the cam sprocket correctly, your new locking pin probably isn't in the right place

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    Re: Ronnie's new runaround - Project VAN!

    its spot on to the whitness mark on the back of the sprocket where its been touching the cam.

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    Re: Ronnie's new runaround - Project VAN!

    diesel timing has to be exact, you need to set the cam correctly to the sprocket, being a different head it will need resetting

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    Re: Ronnie's new runaround - Project VAN!

    I think your cursed.
    Seriously....

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    Re: Ronnie's new runaround - Project VAN!

    and there was me thinking selling my sole to the devil at 14 would only bring a positive future

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    Re: Ronnie's new runaround - Project VAN!

    I will do a Ronnie good luck dance tonight.... You will feel better from 9am onwards tomorrow.

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    Re: Ronnie's new runaround - Project VAN!

    Quote Originally Posted by rc View Post
    and there was me thinking selling my sole to the devil at 14 would only bring a positive future
    hopefully your joking

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    the reason that the cam pulley has got no pin is so that you can get the timing right taking into account the length of a new belt , the width of the headgasket , - some head skimming etc etc , i know you put the pulley back on where it came off but its quite possible that all those tolerances stacked up and put your timing out .

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    Re: Ronnie's new runaround - Project VAN!

    so when did vauxhall think this would be a good ****ing idea????? **** it, scrapping it!

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    Re: Ronnie's new runaround - Project VAN!

    sell it 2 me first

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    Re: Ronnie's new runaround - Project VAN!

    Get an Isuzu in it and you'll love diesel power forever.
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    Re: Ronnie's new runaround - Project VAN!

    if the engines coming out its getting replaced with a petrol one!

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    Re: Ronnie's new runaround - Project VAN!

    See my post in "the Unit" thread

    Get it done

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    Re: Ronnie's new runaround - Project VAN!

    see my post in the unit thread

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    Re: Ronnie's new runaround - Project VAN!

    Quote Originally Posted by rc View Post
    if the engines coming out its getting replaced with a petrol one!
    Getting implants to go along with your HRT too?
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