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24-05-2007, 17:13
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Originally Posted by CraigGreen  Sounds good. Whats happening with the shafts? | Going to equal length shafts that dave dixon is currently having made up for me.
It was on old school Courtenay ones on small outer cv's.
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25-05-2007, 16:36
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| Slight update.
Stripped the spare XEV i aquired for the total sum of £0 today. Shud have the trigger disk off come tuesday and hopefully my engine in bits by then ready to throw it on.
Things are coming together fast now, new springs arrived this morning 350lb 7" fronts and 400lb 11" rears. Rears are rock hard. Shud prove a interesting ride as the bottoms of the shocks are rose jointed so you feel every bump as it was!
Been told by dad its got to be moved soon so he can paint the garage floor. | |
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25-05-2007, 22:35
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| 350 at the front?  | |
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25-05-2007, 22:46
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| You said it was hard and bumpy before Rick - why you going harder? MADNESS!! Especially when its not even going to be a trackcar!
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26-05-2007, 07:53
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| i dont know who advised you on them spring rates but thats a bit hard imo
on most mk2 astra race cars the lads run 275 -300 in the front and 475 in the rear
imo with the set-up you have from what i have learned about suspension is going to be to hard on the front and to soft on the rear so totaly miss matched.
althou i might be totaly wrong as i am still learning myself | |
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26-05-2007, 13:26
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| I dont care about ride quality TBH and a 275 is 2 soft on the front with all the weight it has. Its not a track car and its not going to be cornering fast tbh.
If i wanted ride quality i would be running 15's and billy/koni adjustable shocks. | |
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26-05-2007, 15:13
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| You can getaway with 275's if you have a n f20 in there but it has to be atleast 300's with the f28. 350's will be........fun.
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26-05-2007, 15:41
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| so, say the front end of your car weighs 100 kg more than mine, and thats a big ish guess, do you think you need more than 50% percent more spring rate to cope with that?( i run 225 lb) all you'll do is make your tyre sidewall become your suspension, and on soft ish p zero walls it'll be bounce city as your tyres are an undamped spring | |
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26-05-2007, 17:09
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Originally Posted by lee303 so, say the front end of your car weighs 100 kg more than mine, and thats a big ish guess, do you think you need more than 50% percent more spring rate to cope with that?( i run 225 lb) all you'll do is make your tyre sidewall become your suspension, and on soft ish p zero walls it'll be bounce city as your tyres are an undamped spring | Think 100kg is quite a conservative estimate tbh. | |
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26-05-2007, 19:10
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| even so, its still at least a 50% spring rate increese, which is huuuuge! i guess you'll see how it is, but i reckon it'll be terrible, why did you change the set up anyways, how did it behave before? | |
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26-05-2007, 19:15
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| I had 275's on my f28 let and it wasn't good,lol. Switched to 300's and it was a massive improvement.....was considering going up a touch more  | |
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26-05-2007, 19:19
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| what was the difference you felt between the two setups? | |
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26-05-2007, 19:43
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| The 275 were............softer, they seemed to.....sink into the corners too much, almost like you had too get the body rolled over into it before it started feeding back. Clear as mud?
I'm no expert on suspension setup but i know i much preferred the 300's over the 275's.
Kinda gave the steering a sharper feel aswell. | |
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26-05-2007, 19:45
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| BTW i agree with you on going 300+ on 40 profile 17's, they'll feel great on a smooth track but will rattle you teeth loose on the queens highway. | |
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26-05-2007, 20:05
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| i see what your saying, bit less body roll from the higher poundage, personally i think 300's would be about the max i'd want to go, even with an f28 and a turbo, any higher and its like i said above, your tyres will be doing the work
but, its ricks car, so it depends what he's trying to achieve i guess | |
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26-05-2007, 20:12
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Originally Posted by lee303 its ricks car, so it depends what he's trying to achieve i guess | Dont know what i am trying to achieve anymore!  | |
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26-05-2007, 20:16
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| well that cant make it easy | |
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26-05-2007, 20:18
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| at least springs are cheap... | |
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26-05-2007, 20:23
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| Lee i need you help on brake master cylinders... Posted in other mechanical and electrical. | |
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27-05-2007, 00:38
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| 300lb will be fine if not perfect.
Ran 275lb on my old nova and it was bloody awful, drove a similar setup car on 300lb springs a while back and it was much better than mine ever was, amazing how such a small amount can make that much difference.
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27-05-2007, 14:43
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Originally Posted by Rick Draper Dave what needs doing on yours?
Tires have arrived this morning so i will get them fitted asap. Look fairly small as well so hopefully that will give me a bit more clearence. Shud see some good progress over the weekend 2. |
i have got just about everything to do to mine mate, i pulled some of it to bits again because i wasn't happy so i'm in the midle of pissing around with the down pipe at the min. 
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28-05-2007, 11:58
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| Well managed to get the engine out today and almost damaged the shell quite a lot! I will let the pics do the talking!
When this happened there were no wheels on the back of it! 
Engine out the old school way.  
Its out!   
On stand and sump off 
Whats all this scum in my oil breather pipes?  | |
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28-05-2007, 12:22
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| the scum is emulsified oil, just moisture build up as its not got hot all the way through, will dissapear when you take it for a good run
what happened to make it nearly fall of the stands lucky escape by the looks | |
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28-05-2007, 12:27
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| Nearly a disater,lol. I'm thinking it tipped when the fromt was jacked up to slide the engine out?? | |
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28-05-2007, 12:46
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Originally Posted by Rs1 Nearly a disater,lol. I'm thinking it tipped when the fromt was jacked up to slide the engine out?? | Thats the one! . Noticed it happening so i smacked them back under but then i got a bit hot headed and lowered the jack rather fast!
Going to go and have a arse around with the master cylinders now and do a bit of measuring for lee! | |
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