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    im by no means as experienced as lee with this lump, another guy on here worth speaking to is a local guy to me broster, gained some amazing results from this lump too, think he had a TV feature

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    Quote Originally Posted by CraigGreen View Post
    Envious of your progress Lee (as usual).

    How vital are verniers to the output of the engine? Mine has Schrick cams, Mantzel inlet & I might get a BTB manifold. Would the verniers reign in many more ponies in your opinion?
    I doubt I'll look to TBs in the future however.
    super vital if you ask me, aftermarket cams dont tend to have a dowel for the cam pulleys, and even if they do they dont tend to make them that accurate as the cam is designed to work in one position, and what with variations in stuff like height of head off the block affecting things you ould get diffrerent result everytime without a vernier
    i prefer to set my cams up at TDC using the lift on overlap figures as its more accurate than the old degrees for full lift system
    i've seen jumps of 30 BHP on the rollers due to incorectly trimed cams that were only a few degrees out!
    whats the spec of your cams anyways?

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    i need to find some angrier cams for mine!

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    you ona stock ecu? if so you should wait till you get management as you'll be able to make the best use of them then

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    yeah on stock ECU at mo...

    Lee you know any info on the Dastek units that just raise the rev limit?

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    not anything specific, but all the mantzel stuff i've seen have weird power curves that seem to spike at about 5k, limitations of a plenum without a huge cad designed carbon induction box i spose
    just had a thought though, if you use the stock ecu you wont be able to fit verniers as you need the camsensor lumps on the pulley

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    So in other words wait till i do carbs and do the whole lot at once?

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    yeah, but i hate carbs, i can understand from a cost point of view, but they just cant do what you need them to, but then i am a bit of an engine freak!

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    haha its not a plan ill be doing soon... maybe next summer if i still have money to spend.

    We'll see.... depends what happens between now and then lmao

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    just while were on the subject of cams lee whats the biggest these engines can take before pocketing the pistions is required??? (sp)

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    biggest cams without pocketed pistons is about 264 degrees (depends on lift at tdc as well). You can fit Dbilas verniers and retain the standard management, they have the cam sensor lugs on them.

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    absolutely no point in fitting cams if they will fit without doing the pistons IMO, they're just too mild for the effort

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    nasty pistons it is then (i remember u tellin me know about this lee) hows the nova comin on any further???

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    errr

    bearings are replaced, just got to get some locktight for the flywheel bolts then i'll be putting it back together and in the car

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    are the bearing knacked?
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    little bit worn, the high revs tend to shorten the bearing life a bit, and while its out it just makes sense to stick some in

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    Nice work mate. Coming along splended! See I would also give the engine a mini rebuild while it's out. Rude not to!

    Lee I 100% back you there. Carbs are just wrong. Turning a modern injection car into carbs just doesn't give the outcome you'd expect. My old nova I had a 1650 on Twin 40's. The sound was awesome, and it was fun at the higher end of the rev range. Around town/traffic it was quite tideous! Rob I strongly suggest to listen to Lee there. Even bike TBs would be loads better than carbs. Standalone management with your plenem would be interesting!
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    would i be right in expecting me engine to rev round to 8000rpm maybe a bit more lee? gonna arp bolt in together and up rate the con-rods, pistins and get the crank tuff rided any other advice??

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    you should always listen to me! lmao

    stuart, if you fit steel rods, omegas and get the lot balanced then you can go to 8500 for short bursts(hydraulic lifters being the hold up) with solids you can go to 9k but your oil pump wont go any higher than that, dry sump if you want silly(i.e pointless) revs

    as for other tips, i like having the flywheel double doweled to the crank as its fairly cheap and helps your flywheel bolts out, but as with any engine, the key to higfh revs is getting the head to flow well enough to make it worth it

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    Quote Originally Posted by lee303 View Post

    with solids you can go to 9k but your oil pump wont go any higher than that, dry sump if you want silly(i.e pointless) revs
    Plus i havnt won the lottery yet!!

    the key to higfh revs is getting the head to flow well enough to make it worth it
    Thats were you come in!!

    Whats your middle name lee SMALL XE!!lmao cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by lee303 View Post
    super vital if you ask me, aftermarket cams dont tend to have a dowel for the cam pulleys, and even if they do they dont tend to make them that accurate as the cam is designed to work in one position, and what with variations in stuff like height of head off the block affecting things you could get different results everytime without a vernier
    I prefer to set my cams up at TDC using the lift on overlap figures as its more accurate than the old degrees for full lift system
    I've seen jumps of 30 BHP on the rollers due to incorectly timed cams that were only a few degrees out!
    whats the spec of your cams anyways?
    My engine has the Schrick cams in. I know no more as I bought the engine like that with the Mantzel plenum etc complete.

    30bhp jumps?? On TBs & management I assume?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lee303 View Post
    you should always listen to me! lmao

    Listening. What put this <raises index finger> in your bum bum!?!?! Thats sick
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    Quote Originally Posted by CraigGreen View Post
    My engine has the Schrick cams in. I know no more as I bought the engine like that with the Mantzel plenum etc complete.

    30bhp jumps?? On TBs & management I assume?
    yeah, was an xe, the owner was surprised to say the least!
    you're going turbo no? would have thought you'd want some thing a bit different to an na fast road cam for that

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    Quote Originally Posted by spanishfly View Post
    Listening. What put this <raises index finger> in your bum bum!?!?! Thats sick
    lmao

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