Nova turbo strengthen

Gav nov sri · 22-06-2008, 20:26

I am thinkin bout puttin a c20let in my nova

it all ready has the harry hockley strengthen kit fitted how much more would i be better to strengthen it ?????? am not wanting to make the shell to rigid as all shells nd a bit of flex

Gav

**Benn** · 22-06-2008, 20:38

Have seen lots that dont have the HH kit, and are fine. I wouldnt bother with one thb. You should be fine.

LongLiveTheNova · 22-06-2008, 21:00

Its fine if its been stitch welded, and has a HH kit fitted.

**CraigGreen** · 23-06-2008, 12:57

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Originally Posted by Benn

Have seen lots that dont have the HH kit, and are fine. I wouldnt bother with one thb. You should be fine.

I disagree. Its not abouit stiffening the whole shell but rather the fr structure that supports the engine & box. If this doesnt stay stiff & straight, you cant put down power effectively & will suffer poor traction aswell as possible seams parting company from the rest of the body shell.

Plate kit & stitch welding a must. Roll cage optional.

Only use a rust free/sound body shell IMO.

Mazz · 23-06-2008, 14:38

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Originally Posted by CraigGreen

I disagree. Its not abouit stiffening the whole shell but rather the fr structure that supports the engine & box. If this doesnt stay stiff & straight, you cant put down power effectively & will suffer poor traction aswell as possible seams parting company from the rest of the body shell.

Plate kit & stitch welding a must. Roll cage optional.

Only use a rust free/sound body shell IMO.

I argee, even with my XE, i've fitted a HH kit and stitch welded...

Gav nov sri · 23-06-2008, 18:05

i have seen full shells been fully stitch welded front to back surely thats a bit much as the shell will be to rigid? i was thinking bout strengthing mine the same as keiths done in his thread?

Gav nov sri · 23-06-2008, 18:07

I was thinkin the same as what Craig green was saying what just wanted a few opinions

**Benn** · 23-06-2008, 18:14

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Originally Posted by CraigGreen

I disagree. Its not abouit stiffening the whole shell but rather the fr structure that supports the engine & box. If this doesnt stay stiff & straight, you cant put down power effectively & will suffer poor traction aswell as possible seams parting company from the rest of the body shell.
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I didnt say anything about it stiffening...
I've seen a few plating kits(dont know if they are hh stuff) but its just cut bits of metal, not amasingly thick, cover its just covering seams, which welding does.
If its not a rust bucket then welding it will strenghen it right up to take the extra weigh.

Remember the hh kits where from rally cars.. which need the stiffening cause of the abuse they get, from bumps jumps and things, not cause of a big engine.

Gav nov sri · 23-06-2008, 18:57

yeah i have the hh kit fitted already just was wondering where every one would recomend stitch welding as well ie inner etc?

**Benn** · 23-06-2008, 20:41

If you have the kit fitted sure you'll be strong enough, welded the rest is done for track cars more..

**CraigGreen** · 24-06-2008, 09:06

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Originally Posted by Benn

I didnt say anything about it stiffening...
I've seen a few plating kits(dont know if they are hh stuff) but its just cut bits of metal, not amasingly thick, cover its just covering seams, which welding does.
If its not a rust bucket then welding it will strenghen it right up to take the extra weigh.

Remember the hh kits where from rally cars.. which need the stiffening cause of the abuse they get, from bumps jumps and things, not cause of a big engine.

The Nova bodyshell was initially designed with the 1.3 8v being the pokiest engine it was going to have. 200lb/ft is a damn sight more.

I wouldnt say the whole shell needs stitching, but after having my smallblock plated & stitched I can say the difference was eye opening & have to reccomend it tbh.

[edit] Also essential IMO is the boxed TCA's & polybushes.

**Benn** · 24-06-2008, 12:19

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Originally Posted by CraigGreen

[edit] Also essential IMO is the boxed TCA's & polybushes.

You think boxed lower arms are worth doing?

**CraigGreen** · 24-06-2008, 12:31

Oh yeah, any flex down there doesnt help the tyre contact patch.

I can't believe yours arent done, essential on big blocks.

Gav nov sri · 24-06-2008, 17:25

yeah got poly bushs fitted already n had intended boxin them so what should i all get stitch welded?

**CraigGreen** · 25-06-2008, 12:37

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Originally Posted by Gav nov sri

so what should i all get stitch welded?

Stitch weld.. weld an inch, leave an inch, weld an inch (& so on)

Stitch the turrets to inner wings, inner wings to chassis legs. (look) through the wheel arch & against the bulkhead - stitch the chassis legs to bulkhead.

You basically want to fix all the panels together that form the chassis in front of the bulkhead.

Rick Draper · 25-06-2008, 13:18

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Originally Posted by CraigGreen

Oh yeah, any flex down there doesnt help the tyre contact patch.

I can't believe yours arent done, essential on big blocks.

Mine arnt done either

DaveB · 25-06-2008, 14:07

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Originally Posted by Rick Draper

Mine arnt done either

I don't think it'll matter if the car just gets pushed from the garage to the drive and back

Rick Draper · 25-06-2008, 14:19

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Originally Posted by DaveB

I don't think it'll matter if the car just gets pushed from the garage to the drive and back

vxt · 25-06-2008, 14:48

imho the front panel is the worst offender, and made a lot worse if its rusty.

Gav nov sri · 25-06-2008, 16:40

Cheers for all your help need to try n get pic s up of my nov just not sure how to do that yet lol

**Benn** · 25-06-2008, 18:24

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Originally Posted by CraigGreen

Oh yeah, any flex down there doesnt help the tyre contact patch.

I can't believe yours arent done, essential on big blocks.

I've never liked the idea since picking my mate up when he slid in to a high kerb and you could see where it bent to save any real damage.. and seeing some ones on here years ago that bent the chassis in when they did the same with boixed in ones..
I just bought new ones when i rebuilt it..

dose · 25-06-2008, 20:06

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Originally Posted by Gav nov sri

Cheers for all your help need to try n get pic s up of my nov just not sure how to do that yet lol

PIE!!!...give me the pics and i will fire them up for you....

wilson_bw · 25-06-2008, 20:12

Gav if your looking for someone to do it, go see Kyle at Chizfab. He done mine and the work was top notch. Iv got his number if you want it.

Gav nov sri · 25-06-2008, 20:33

pm me the number wilson that would b great

Gav nov sri · 25-06-2008, 20:42

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Originally Posted by dose

PIE!!!...give me the pics and i will fire them up for you....

ok ua cow lol