hazard help...potential mot failure

[basscrazy]

had some wiring done on my car im asking before i take it back



my hazards only work with ignition on

buuut when i lock car with alarm they flash....


before i look like a pleb is there a fuse for hazards or could it be the ground?

my mfd comes on with head lights as well which it never did before i took it to them

it is a qualified place and do have all recipts for the wiring i had done


can only take once got mot.....


hazards only work with ignition so im screwed

but the garage its going to sends there cars to where i got wiring done so if i explained would they take it to them?

[Terry]

I'm by no means an auto electrician but I doubt the fuse is at fault because the hazards do actually work.
Sounds like the hazards are only getting a switched live from the ignition and not a fixed live like it should.
You hope that the garage test the hazards with the ignition on after they've tested other lights etc. I wouldn't know if it's part of the test that the hazards work with no key in the ignition.

[basscrazy]

IF they test with ignition on im fine if not im not but if i explain te situation and with them using them for wiring they should pass it if its going straight to get rewired after??

[mattcoupturbo]

Hazards should have a permenat feed from the batterys so should come on all the time. They may well have switched some wiring which has resulted in you only having a ignition live to it.

[Terry]

Officially they can't pass it on the assumption the problem will be fixed. They can only test/pass it in current condition.
If you have a friendly MOT station they may overlook it if you promise to sort it.

You could always run a fused feed direct from the battery to back of the hazard switch as a temporary fix to pass the MOT. Just make sure the wire has an inline fuse to the correct rating.

[basscrazy]

well its the company they send cars to for wiring so if i have prrof of recipts etc then surley they would pass it?


i was having a constant drain on battery and they rewired lambda as they said it was drawing constant feed and then rewired all the lightsw at front too....

basically qualified electrician has ****ed all my car up?? so now cant get mot and cant get it down to them first without getting it trailored

[mattcoupturbo]

If you've sent the car htere for work and its come back fubared then they should have to pay to have it sorted, ie have it trailered to their garage.

[basscrazy]

thats the thing dont i have to prove it was ok b4??

[Terry]

Like I said it doesn't matter what guarentee the station has they can NOT pass the car on the future condition of the car. If they do they can lose the testers license. The tester can only test what's in front of him.
Call the garage up and tell them to pick it up and fix the hazard fault they've caused.
If they're a professional garage they should sort it for you.

[Terry]

well its the company they send cars to for wiring so if i have prrof of recipts etc then surley they would pass it?


i was having a constant drain on battery and they rewired lambda as they said it was drawing constant feed and then rewired all the lightsw at front too....

basically qualified electrician has ****ed all my car up?? so now cant get mot and cant get it down to them first without getting it trailored

I don't see why they would need to rewire the lights and lambda. Did they say why/how the lambda had come to be a permanent live?
What was wrong with your lights?

[basscrazy]

they were cut previously and wanted them wired properly and supposedly lambda was damaged when the c2oxe was put in so was rewired and they said it was wired wrong

[Terry]

I was assuming the car was factory wiring, Making sense now. Who fitted the XE?
Even with the engine swap I don't think the hazard wiring would be affected, have you had an alarm fitted recently?
If you have a multi meter you could pull the fuse for the hazard lights and see if you get a reading from there.
Looks like a case of finding where the hazard wiring was interrupted and putting it back to factory.

[basscrazy]

beardy did xe they all worked till they did wiring to stop a constant feed on the battery which was meant to be lambda

but mfd comes on when you turn lights on
and hazard on ignition

[Terry]

So everything worked fine after the XE was fitted but the battery was being drained by the lambda. Has that been fixed now?
Since the lambda was fixed the hazards are now switched live instead of fixed live.
You have 3 options as I see it.
Firstly take it back to the garage and tell them to sort their mess FOC(this would be what i'd do)
Secondly you can try to find where the wiring has gone wrong yourself and fix it.
Alternatively as a temporary fix run a direct feed from the battery to the Hazards(with an inline fuse fitted)

The garage can not pass the car if they know the hazards are faulty no matter who did the work or if there is a promise the fault will be fixed immediately.
Your only option is risk the failure and hope the tester doesn't spot the fault OR get it fixed before the test.

[basscrazy]

gonna dump it in front of the wiring place they can sort it


it doesnt have drain now


buuuut i think they have just run everything on igniton by looks of it

cars stalling all time from cold so still think wiring problem so just gonna try get it running tomorow and take it doen as mot is being done wednesday

[Terry]

Is it only stalling whilst idling and cold or whilst driving and cold?
My mate had a garage do some wiring on his Audi 90. They've made a right balls up of it.
He's paid them over £200 to feck it up
You may want to look at the option of a new (second hand) loom that hasn't been butchered.

[basscrazy]

i payed about that


and only stalls when its cold starting it up im sick to death of the car now


someone said to me a loom might be better but would that solve it?

[Terry]

If you replace the engine loom for one that hasn't been cutand repaired then you should eliminate any wiring problems on the engine side.
I don't think it'll fix your hazard problems though as iirc they run off a seperate loom.

[basscrazy]

its finding someone to do it tho

basically gonna get the wiring sworted back out free of charge or will take it further

then it goes into garage to see if they can sort stalling ( would they know if new looms better?)

then if gets running right mot time

[basscrazy]

oh and really apprieciate you helping as well terry im just coming to a point where i dont know weather to get rid of it alltogether but i love the car

[Terry]

No problems mate, I have been at that point many times over the years and finally killed the project and stripped the car after 6 years of owning it.
Personally i've always tried to revert back to factory fitment when I get wiring faults etc.
Get things back to standard (ie new loom that hasn't been butchered) this gives you a working spring board to work from as you'll know there are no problems with the wiring and can look elsewhere for stalling problems etc.
If it's just a case of some wiring to get things running smooth i'd carry on. If the car is in good condition don't let the engine probs and a little wiring fault put you off finishing it off.

[basscrazy]

i cant really stop now it looks like this lol

http://www.corsasport.co.uk/carimage.../Photo0186.jpg


rang the place terry and they said to bring it down i gave them list of things to the owner and he said i dont know what they have done myself but bring it down tomorow leave it with me and i will take a look

i have been offered non butchered loom

but cars booked into a garage wenesday do i want to get this loom fitted before i take it to them?? or do it if they say its wiring as it could be something else

[Terry]

Front bumper isn't to my taste but looks a nice tidy car you've spent money on so get it all fixed up.
I wouldn't bother with the MOT until the wiring is sorted as the hazards may well fail and anything else they've cocked up on the wiring.

[basscrazy]

well its in tomorow for the hazards doing


so would be working for by time mot is done

but do you think i should fit new loom before it and delay mot

[basscrazy]

also i get the bumper comment a lot nothings said about rest lol maybe went a bit too much but i kinda like


think im just a child really and like the big kits lol