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16-12-2005, 19:22
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#1 | | MIGClub Member
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| Vauxhalls as tunable as fords?
Hi, ive always been a vauxhall fan, since i was 10 with a nova field car, since then ive owned a few. I always asumed vauxhall had better engines/tunability etc - Take the mk6 escort for example, the 1.8 16v is only 105 bhp (where as vauxhalls was 115+) Ok not alot of difference,
Its just that a mate of mine has a mk6 escort 1.8 si, 105 bhp std, and was enquiring about engine modifications, and has found a company that will give him a rebuilt engine with throttle bodies and alot of other tuning goodies, on an exchange basis for his old engine. The new one will be putting out 210 bhp, and it costs £1600 
He's adamant thats the final price, no engine management, fitting etc on top of that price.
I cant remember the name of the company, but if i do will post it up | 
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16-12-2005, 19:23
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#2 | | MIGClub Member
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| So what would be the best gains overall for a nova for the £1k mark
Was thinking c16xe with few tuning goodies?? (wanna stay small block for handling/driveability) | |
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16-12-2005, 19:33
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| throttle bodies.
that escort 1800 16v zetec motor makes 130bhp in certain trims so teh 105bhp versions obviously more restricted so its a bit more likely the power gains are possible | |
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16-12-2005, 19:35
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| Nitrous! Pound for pound it cannot be beaten... 
Doesn't affect reliability or economy when you're not using it either | |
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16-12-2005, 19:50
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| i no this is a bit of a take over but whats the differance between the 16xe and 16 se??? | |
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16-12-2005, 19:52
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| about 8 valves mate | |
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16-12-2005, 19:54
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Originally Posted by Ghost_Walker about 8 valves mate | 
And a cam | |
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16-12-2005, 20:53
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| Ford has Burton, if only Vauxhall had the same. 
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16-12-2005, 22:34
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| well thanx!!! just a begginer!!only 19 when i got my 1st vaux! still got it! im pretty proud i had a gte at 19!!!coz it was 1k at 18 on a fiesta (insurance wise)! think im beter off on nva load!!! just found that site!!! | |
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16-12-2005, 22:57
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Originally Posted by GaryVaux Its just that a mate of mine has a mk6 escort 1.8 si, 105 bhp std, and was enquiring about engine modifications, and has found a company that will give him a rebuilt engine with throttle bodies and alot of other tuning goodies, on an exchange basis for his old engine. The new one will be putting out 210 bhp, and it costs £1600
He's adamant thats the final price, no engine management, fitting etc on top of that price. | He's tripping. | |
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16-12-2005, 23:39
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Originally Posted by Miles He's tripping. |
Agreed, you'd be lucky to get the TBs for that. Looking at 140bhp on that engine with tbs, max.
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17-12-2005, 00:09
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| you can get about 170 with simple mods, but it will come to a little over 1600 for the parts excluding exchange engine
and burtons aint all that fyi, they are overpriced on most stuff and dont have the time/expertise to put out the quality they once did | |
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17-12-2005, 01:51
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Originally Posted by StationMiek Ford has Burton, if only Vauxhall had the same. | PVD, Cossvaux? What more do you want? Christ there's no pleasing some people. | |
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17-12-2005, 09:38
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| I honestly don't they're anywhere near Burton Power tbh.
PVD?! They only sold pretty little modifications! | |
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17-12-2005, 12:55
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Originally Posted by tathan PVD, Cossvaux? What more do you want? Christ there's no pleasing some people. | Cossvaux
Agree with Rob_S burton arent that good,fair enough they can supply over priced bits but the expertese(sp)just isnt there anymore.
Imo any engine variant is as good as the other in the long run,ford(mainly cossie)has alot of race history/development over the vx unit,however we can always steel there ideas and technology and use it as our own  | |
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17-12-2005, 12:58
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| hey ardz no hard feelings. just had a bad day and that was too easy a question not to take the piss with
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17-12-2005, 13:02
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Originally Posted by StationMiek I honestly don't they're anywhere near Burton Power tbh.
PVD?! They only sold pretty little modifications! |
I meant to add a  but i thought you'd all realise anyway... | |
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