Anyone on strike tomorrow?

[Paul]

Anyone on strike tomorrow, and if so do you think a strike is the way forward?

I cannot understand it

[wayne451]

If so, I would like to add my 2 pence...

Shut up moaning you bunch of soft TWATS and open your ****ing eyes.

[Allvaux]

If anyone crosses the line then you're a scab and I hope you are the first to lose your job if the axe falls.

*I despise the sort of daft twats who've happily taken everything from their employers that the unions fought for but would like to whinge about people striking.

[wayne451]

If anyone crosses the line then you're a scab and I hope you are the first to lose your job if the axe falls.

*I despise the sort of daft twats who've happily taken everything from their employers that the unions fought for but would like to whinge about people striking.

To be fair Billy whilst I do agree completely with your sentiment (former union myself as you know), the actual voting percentage was very low so it has gone off a 'majority of the minority' basis. However, if someone cannot be arsed to vote then they deserve all they get IMO.

These public sector spanners do need to open their eyes though. I genuinely hope that the Government turn around after tomorrow and do what they promised - remove their offer from the table. They are on a VERY cushy number.

P.S. You sound like a Thatcher-hating, miner molesting Taff with talk of 'scabs'.

[Paul]

My Mom works for the local council.

Doesn't want to strike, but the building she works in is closed.
They today told her that she can work at the local main council office for the day, but she's not intrested in that so will stay at home.

To be honest if I worked in the public sector, i'd just be glad I had a job. The country and most of europe is fooked.

[Allvaux]

If I worked in the public sector (like one of my very close relations does) I'd certainly NOT be thinking how rosy things are. I'd actually be contemplating how utterly **** things are and wondering just how worse things are going to get with this dickhead in charge of the country. From the moment that **** got hold of the country I predicted plenty of industrial action and this will be the tip of the iceberg.

I expect plenty of people that that wanker Cameron has chucked on to the dole queue qould be glad of a job though. Very helpful of him to have a million kids out of work and then extended the retirement age to 67, takes a special kind of thinking from a special kind of person to have dreamt that one up.

[Paul]

What do you think he should do?

[wayne451]

If I worked in the public sector (like one of my very close relations does) I'd certainly NOT be thinking how rosy things are. I'd actually be contemplating how utterly **** things are and wondering just how worse things are going to get with this dickhead in charge of the country. From the moment that **** got hold of the country I predicted plenty of industrial action and this will be the tip of the iceberg.

I expect plenty of people that that wanker Cameron has chucked on to the dole queue qould be glad of a job though. Very helpful of him to have a million kids out of work and then extended the retirement age to 67, takes a special kind of thinking from a special kind of person to have dreamt that one up.

Come on Billy, you aren't a spastic so stop posting like one.

People live longer - deny it. It's pretty simple really that you have a 3 way situation, you must pay more, take less or work longer. Pick which is most important and tweak the other two accordingly. It IS that simple.

It's the dole sponging work-shy TWATS that Labour encouraged to breed like sodding bacteria that have done us over. The high earners are the minority but pay the highest percentile of tax (ignore all the 'bankers' crap) whilst the 'crap' that should be weeded out by naturtal selection pay in NOTHING and milk it to high heaven.

I voted Lib Dem last time. I will not deny it. People can give me crap all they like but at least I went and voted. It was wrong that they effectively held the cards. I WILL vote Conservative in future. I would rather have various diseases such as gingerism, queerness and AIDS than vote Labour.

I just wish Merkel would sort her **** out, that prick is costing me a lot of money. Just as those vile Greek twats did.

[Corsa_LET]

I think this government were dealt a **** hand to start with because of the state labour left the country in after letting people borrow money no matter what & giving people mortgages that were 3x more than they could afford

[DarrenH]

Doesn't want to strike, but the building she works in is closed.
They today told her that she can work at the local main council office for the day, but she's not intrested in that so will stay at home.

so will she be used in the strikers statistics ?

[DarrenH]

I think this government were dealt a **** hand to start with because of the state labour left the country in after letting people borrow money no matter what & giving people mortgages that were 3x more than they could afford

yeah and blair blamed major and thatcher, and thatcher blaimed callaghan, and callaghan blaimed heath, and heath blaimed wilson.

YAWN

such a dull opinion

[Nemesis]

The girl I'm seeing (a teacher) is on strike only because she didn't want to be harassed by the picket lines. She wanted to work, because like most public sector workers she realises a job needs doing, for the good of the country.

Bring back Thatcher and crush the unions IMO. Nobody is forcing them to work, if they don't like their jobs / pay / pensions then **** off!

And how the **** have I ended up dating a teacher instead of the pupils?

[Brett]

you have to laugh at the idiots on strike, the unions in the UK are a permanent laughing stock so thats nowt new. They cant win this, and what little public support they have they will drive away after a few more days of strikes. Well thought out plan, dumbasses.

They should try getting a similar pension outside of the public sector, then winding thier money grabbing necks in and stop holding the rest of us hard working tax payers to ransome.

And can I strike because the pension age will be 67 when I get there? I have to cop working longer, partially to pay for their pensions!!

I hope the govt withdraws the offer, hammers them harder and then I will laugh.

Im off to abuse the wankers on strike outside the local school.

[gixerboyuk]

There is little public support because 50% of the public are the work shy takers who dont give a fook and the other 50% have been through it already with the mines, railways, steel industry, ship yards etc. They had a semi decent wage and good benefits at work and lost it all. They are the ones paying these CS wages and are already hitting rock bottom with all the recent cutbacks.
If we really are as fooked as they say, they need to get with it and accept their increased pensions and the other stuff so then we're all in it together aren't we. Lol

On the other side i am really brassed that when you take your child out of school you get drawn over the coals and get fined. I say if you've had to take a day off work to babysit your kids because of these tw$ts send them a bloody bill for lost pay.

[Davey j]

There is little public support because 50% of the public are the work shy takers who dont give a fook and the other 50% have been through it already with the mines, railways, steel industry, ship yards etc. They had a semi decent wage and good benefits at work and lost it all.

I am in neither camp mate. I work all the hours I can get but haven't been through any of the aforementioned................

For the record I agree with Wayne here.

The public sector is funded entirely by taxation from the private sector and a bucket load of loans from the IMF (Goldman Sachs and Co essentially). We are all being penalised for having lived in a bubble of non-existent credit for the last 15 years (dotcom bubble and credit crunch aside). Some of the people that have been on the phone-in debates on 5 live and the like couldn't seem to grasp the concept that, although they pay THEIR taxes too THEIR tax has already been paid to them as a tax so they are just paying back a small amount of the money given to them essentially by the private sector. When you have a public sector that is larger than the private sector as you do here in the UK you will have trouble. Not everyone thinks like the few I heard on R5 granted but it is the ones shouting loudest that appear to be the least educated on the matter.

Either we all strike and bankrupt ourselves and start over or we just accept skintage for the foreseeable future. Pockets of society stopping isn't going to make much difference save for yet more sensationalist headlines in red top newspapers.

They need to look at the Hong Kong model. 20% income tax across the board. Tiny government. Year on year growth. Enviable healthcare system and public transport. Low crime rates.

Easy said. Difficult done.

Either Tory or Labour approach is going to mean generally everyone is less rich save for those who keep their pennies offshore and bribe those in charge. You cannot keep paying off debt with more debt. I tried that in my twenties and went bust. Quite why the rules are different for the banks should be beyond me but it isn't. Those in the know will keep dreaming up Ponzi schemes to keep themselves rich whilst the rest of us get shafted. Been like it for centuries. If you are lucky enough to find ways of making money on the market I say fair play to be honest.

Anyone interested in finance and how it works or want to learn some stuff I can highly recommend Max Keiser on RT (Russia Today). He does like to bash the west a bit but he is American, and an ex banker himself and he does provide some often comical commentary on how things are done. He also completely owned a JP Morgan banker on some debate programme with David Mitchell on C4 last year which was good viewing.

[Allvaux]

Come on Billy, you aren't a spastic so stop posting like one.

People live longer - deny it. It's pretty simple really that you have a 3 way situation, you must pay more, take less or work longer. Pick which is most important and tweak the other two accordingly. It IS that simple.

It's the dole sponging work-shy TWATS that Labour encouraged to breed like sodding bacteria that have done us over. The high earners are the minority but pay the highest percentile of tax (ignore all the 'bankers' crap) whilst the 'crap' that should be weeded out by naturtal selection pay in NOTHING and milk it to high heaven.

I voted Lib Dem last time. I will not deny it. People can give me crap all they like but at least I went and voted. It was wrong that they effectively held the cards. I WILL vote Conservative in future. I would rather have various diseases such as gingerism, queerness and AIDS than vote Labour.

I just wish Merkel would sort his **** out, that prick is costing me a lot of money. Just as those vile Greek twats did.

Hang on a minute here, bollocks!
According to Cameron and his cronies they were putting people out of work because Labour had taken too many people on, now you're saying they encouraged dole spongers?
Even if that was true (and I don't think it is) please tell me how Cameron throwing thousands upon thosuands of people out of work is going to help? Oh no, I think I know actually. You're going to go all 'Daily Mail' on us now and tell us about the millions of jobs out there for people when in reality it isn't the case.
You should know (because you live/d in a low rent **** hole area) that decent well paid jobs aren't about and you should also know that not everyone on the dole is there by chance.
If you think keeping people in work until 67 is a good idea and will help kids find jobs then you are deluded me old mate, seriously deluded that is.

Paul: ref. your question the one thing I would NOT do is just lie there and take it. That's the way people get even more downtrodden by twats like this lot in charge.

[Corsa_LET]

People can argue all they like, at the end of the day nobody can convince me that politicians arent in it to line their own pockets. Theyre selfish bastards who have no idea about what really goes on in the real world while they sit in their cushy mansions hiding behind their curtains from the big bad world! Have you seen them shouting & jeering at eachother in the commons like a bunch of schoolkids! These are the ****ers running this country, no wonder we're in the ****!

[RobJenko]

all i know is that i work full time and so does my wife. our local school was closed today which fooked up my wifes day as she had to stay home to look after the kids. so she will lose a days pay, and as things are tough at the moment (as it is for most people out there) i'm working a days overtime this sat to make up the pay loss. and the sickening thing is that the local council, who's staff went on strike out of their own free will, wont dock their pay for today until their febuary pay packet so they dont lose any pay before christmas and new year!

[wayne451]

Hang on a minute here, bollocks!
According to Cameron and his cronies they were putting people out of work because Labour had taken too many people on, now you're saying they encouraged dole spongers?
Even if that was true (and I don't think it is) please tell me how Cameron throwing thousands upon thosuands of people out of work is going to help? Oh no, I think I know actually. You're going to go all 'Daily Mail' on us now and tell us about the millions of jobs out there for people when in reality it isn't the case.
You should know (because you live/d in a low rent **** hole area) that decent well paid jobs aren't about and you should also know that not everyone on the dole is there by chance.
If you think keeping people in work until 67 is a good idea and will help kids find jobs then you are deluded me old mate, seriously deluded that is.

Paul: ref. your question the one thing I would NOT do is just lie there and take it. That's the way people get even more downtrodden by twats like this lot in charge.

What complete and utter CRAP are you on about fella?

Labour have taken on too many people doesn't link with a loads of dole sponging bellends? Do you grasp what recession means to a company? They cut 'non essential staff'. Labour have handed out money left right and centre to lazy, worky shy, kid producing SCUM for years.

How do I live (or lived in a 'low rent ****hole area')? I think you need to get medication as your old age is clearly making you senile. You do realise that where I currently live I have current Premiership Footballers living within a stones throw? You may have heard of Ronaldo, the Worlds most expensive footballer EVER? Yeah, he used to live less than a mile away.

So yeah, I have just placed a cash offer in on a former church so if I pull it off I will have a 1200 square foot living room. A 1 bedroom semi detatched (no typo, 1 bedroom) is for sale in the same hamlet for £285,000. The suggestion that I live in a crap area is laughable. Maybe 20 years ago you would have had a point.

I am potentially up for the chop as my employer has announced redundancies. I am not overly concerned as it equates to 23% of people in my job. I know and can prove I am at the top end of the stats and not at the bottom, my only concern would be favouritsm t the piss takers on long term sick etc.

Do I think jobs are out there? I sodding know they are Billy. The problem is that people who should HAVE to do those jobs are unwilling to do them.

The irony is that as I decided to work and better myself and invest money I would not be able to claim ANYTHING despite paying into the system as I have too much in terms of 'investments'. I could however sell all of my shares, buy a Lambo, house etc and dip below the threshold and sign on.

It's not me that is deluded pal. If someone in the private sector DOESN'T have to work longer then who do you think picks up the tab? BINGO. The private sector as that is what funds it via taxation. So basically if the public sector get their early retirement, big pension and no contribution increases it means that the private sector then have to work longer, get less pay and pay higher taxes.

[Allvaux]

*Wayne talks about his money and what he's going to buy with it. Debate over.

[wayne451]

People can argue all they like, at the end of the day nobody can convince me that politicians arent in it to line their own pockets. Theyre selfish bastards who have no idea about what really goes on in the real world while they sit in their cushy mansions hiding behind their curtains from the big bad world! Have you seen them shouting & jeering at eachother in the commons like a bunch of schoolkids! These are the ****ers running this country, no wonder we're in the ****!

MP's have taken a pay cut actually.

I do however agree as I think it was Milliband slating Cameron earlier today claiming that he was turning his back on cleaners etc as the PM spends more money on his annual skiing trip than they earn in a week!?! Find me a decent skiing holiday for the money a cleaner gets in a week and I will take their hand off!

[wayne451]

*Wayne talks about his money and what he's going to buy with it. Debate over.

That's bollocks Billy and you know it.

What you actually mean is that you have NOTHING to reply with.

So I have some money. What do you want me to do? Appologise for making the right decisions in life?

Should I support others by renting my entire life, paying their mortgage whilst paying for their nest egg? I make money as a result of undrestanding finances and trying to predict movements. Some people make money from selling drugs, prostitutes etc. Stop trying to paint a poor picture. I worked to get myself in this position. I am sorry that you begrudge me of it.

I am happy to discuss this with anyone pal but for ****s sake do NOT insult me and bring NOTHING to the table. I am a numbers person, facts and figures. Do not respond with clouds of bollocks and think you will get off lightly. You ARE talking ****.

[DarrenH]

Do I think jobs are out there? I sodding know they are Billy. The problem is that people who should HAVE to do those jobs are unwilling to do them.

said the same

and to do that they need to get into the heads of all job dodgers and instill a bit of old school self worth like the 1970s and 1960s. nowadays everyone thinks they are above the low skilled low paid jobs that our parents and grand parents did for decades, and dare i say still had a sense of job satisfaction because they were decent people

[Violet]

The scope of the problem is so vast, I can barely understand who or what was to blame, but Labour must face some **** for mismanaging the financial situation into the void it turned into which was basically quantitive easing for 10+ years, and I voted Liberal as a '**** you' to Labour (am I alone on this?) as I couldn't bear another 4 years of the smug 'we didn't do nothing' attitude I got from Brown, and I didn't want Peter Mandleson heading up to PM which is what would've happened.
I don't think the coalition are actually doing anything positive, because they can't, it's out of their hands. There will always be dole scroungers as they're habitually lazy, they weren't raised with a hard working discipline.

I've worked continuously since 1997 - January 2009, I went to college then went straight into work. I've been technically unemployed for three years, earning money from self employed contract work since, but ffs I'd rather have security from a job I can travel to every morning. I'd take half the wage I was working on in 2009. I thought it was bad two years ago, but I'm really struggling to live at the moment (three months saving up for a 400 quid deposit), and to be fair, that's all I give a **** about at the moment. I've never been in debt or lived outrageously, and I'm ****ed. I feel a bit saddened that these people are striking - can't you wait until the economy is in a better state, it's making things worse. I'd happily walk through a picket line to get to work - I'd stick my finger up my arse and wipe it on the nostrils of the c*nt that tried to stop me (as long as someone called an ambulance after I got the **** kicked out of me).

[Allvaux]

That's bollocks Billy and you know it.

What you actually mean is that you have NOTHING to reply with.

So I have some money. What do you want me to do? Appologise for making the right decisions in life?

Should I support others by renting my entire life, paying their mortgage whilst paying for their nest egg? I make money as a result of undrestanding finances and trying to predict movements. Some people make money from selling drugs, prostitutes etc. Stop trying to paint a poor picture. I worked to get myself in this position. I am sorry that you begrudge me of it.

I am happy to discuss this with anyone pal but for ****s sake do NOT insult me and bring NOTHING to the table. I am a numbers person, facts and figures. Do not respond with clouds of bollocks and think you will get off lightly. You ARE talking ****.

Which technically reads 'I'm going to talk about how successful I am with shares and talk about another house that I won't buy'.
Talking of supporting people with your nest egg perhaps you'd like to explain why low paid public sector workers are expected to pay for the **** ups by the banks then?
I don't begrudge you your money, by insinuating that I am shows how far up your own arse you've become recently. If you've got money then fair play but as I said a while back it does get tiring reading of your latest colossal money making scheme as it seems to creep into virtually every post you made at one time.
Honestly, get over yourself Wayne. You used to be a right laugh but turned into a bit of an internet ego with your talk of money.

*Before you say it, YES I do live in a **** house on a **** estate and have **** all money spare to buy 'nice' things. I can live with that though.