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    Famine in Africa... yet again

    Apparently 750,000 peolpe are at risk of dying in Somalia at the minute, due to famine

    Can anyone tell me why these people keep having kids if they are in a country that doesn't have enough food? Why would you reproduce under the threat of your kids dying from hunger?
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    Re: Famine in Africa... yet again

    white man gave the black man there country back and then they start civil wars & cant feed themselves. We now have to go back and give "aid" when they are to busy giving each other aids ffs
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    You could hand out millions and in 10 years food will run out and there will be a famine. I think if you're donating, it's only sustainable through development and capitalism and looking at what they got on the telly, they don't have either, apart from really hot weather and crappy soil. What will 10 million do if there's a drought and another famine in 10 years time?

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    Re: Famine in Africa... yet again

    Other than shagging, what else can they do to entertain themselves?

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    Re: Famine in Africa... yet again

    They/we need to give in to the fact that life cannot be sustained in such a desert like environment.

    I remember a "funny" story of man in Somalia dieing of Aids. His brother was then of course entitled to the dead man's wife; he then died of Aids, and naturally the next brother inherited the wife!

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    Re: Famine in Africa... yet again

    they have kids so they can eat simples!

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    Re: Famine in Africa... yet again

    It's all cultural out there. Move the Belgians / Portugese / British / French back in to sort the continent out IMO.

    An interesting read is - The Shackled Continent by Robert Guest. Not exactly recent, I know, but I found it informative and eye opening all the same.

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    Re: Famine in Africa... yet again

    So pretty much a consensus then that their suffering is self-inflicted?

    I can understand giving aid to dig wells, to train them to grow their own food etc... but just handing out food might be exacerbating the problem, and seems a bit wrong when so many services are being cut here at home.

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    Re: Famine in Africa... yet again

    I wouldn't say self inflicted. Certainly not helped by themselves but they can only piss with the **** they have, if you get what I mean.

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    Re: Famine in Africa... yet again

    Quote Originally Posted by Nemesis View Post
    Apparently 750,000 peolpe are at risk of dying in Somalia at the minute, due to famine

    Can anyone tell me why these people keep having kids if they are in a country that doesn't have enough food? Why would you reproduce under the threat of your kids dying from hunger?
    survival instinct, same as most mammals. when mortaility rates are high having lots of offspring increases chance of your blood line continuing. you only have to go back about 100 years in mainland europe, or anywhere we call a "developed" nation actually, and its a similar situation.

    difference is we arent living in barron inhospitable equatorial lawless country, i actually think its a valid debate, how much are we actually "helping" by sending aid?

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    Re: Famine in Africa... yet again

    Aid question asside - Africa hasn't exactly got a monopoly on famine - as an enormous developing country it has wider reaching impact and hits headlines harder in the developed world

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    Re: Famine in Africa... yet again

    A lot of the issues arise from the governments. In the past we have sent money which has never even reached the poorer people out there. They complain about drought, well they live on a sodding waters egde. Why not use the money being given to build wind/water generators and a desalination plant. That way they will have fresh drinking water and water they can use to water the land.

    The biggest problem is this. We and other countries took them education and assistance to build them selves up. But rather than continuing the work we taught them they sat back and let it all go again.

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    Re: Famine in Africa... yet again

    You only have to watch Red Nose Day to see they are having a laugh.

    Do they think we are daft? They go on about famine and starvation but they always show us bloated pot belly people they claim are starving!?! Pull the other one sunshine, you're FAT you need to eat LESS...

    Why do they always bang on about how Fatima has to walk for 6 hours a day just to get water? They live in mud huts FFS, they are just doing it to be postcode snobs. Move closer to water and save 6 hours of each day. Simples. It should also reduce back complaints in later life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GTE 16v View Post
    Other than shagging, what else can they do to entertain themselves?

    Eat?


    Oh, hang on....

    Anyway billions of pounds spent and no one has opened an Asda?
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    think of the money and costs open a aldi /lidl ...... so much cheaper lol

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    Re: Famine in Africa... yet again

    well if we give no aid then all the people die and then the current regime has no authority which would make it easier to get rid of these so called pirates, cause i ain't seen any of them with parrots yet. once everybodies gone we could send all the dolies over there to show them what its like to scrape a living instead of leeching
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    Re: Famine in Africa... yet again

    Quote Originally Posted by anniman1 View Post
    well if we give no aid then all the people die and then the current regime has no authority which would make it easier to get rid of these so called pirates, cause i ain't seen any of them with parrots yet. once everybodies gone we could send all the dolies over there to show them what its like to scrape a living instead of leeching
    We did something similar years ago with this Island otherwise known as Australia...... look how they are thrieving now though.
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    Re: Famine in Africa... yet again

    Read something a few days ago from a doctor who was an 'aid helper' a few years ago. He had returned a few weeks ago and the same people are sat in the same places, just waiting for the food trucks to arrive. He declared that food aid 'Does not work'. The more you give, the less they do basically and they just start relying on the truck to turn up. Why should they?
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    Re: Famine in Africa... yet again

    Sending them food means we sustain an artificially high number of them that their own economy/land cant support.

    They will then breed even more, making it even worse next generation.

    I think we do more harm than good when we try and support them with half arsed charitable effort.


    By all means help them build an infrastructure but I dont think handouts actually prevent suffering, I think they just knock it onto the next generation and then make it twice as bad.

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    Re: Famine in Africa... yet again

    Quote Originally Posted by wayne451 View Post
    Do they think we are daft? They go on about famine and starvation but they always show us bloated pot belly people they claim are starving!?! Pull the other one sunshine, you're FAT you need to eat LESS...
    lmao I'd love to see Lenny Henry say that on next year's Comic Relief.
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    I think the UK should sort its own problems out first tbh. We have people born here living on the streets, what the **** is that about when immigrants get houses etc. We're drowning in our own **** and yet still desperate to help others, **** them and **** their problems we have out own!

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    Re: Famine in Africa... yet again

    Isn't the cause of draught in Somalia or other effected places a direct result of highly industrialised nations churning out billions of tons of carbon dioxide!

    And how about Americas suffering more share of hurricanes now then ever before. The planet earth is in danger of extinction most probably due to advances made in civilisation and industrialisation, the root cause of the problem.

    Todays weather in UK wasn't particularly good either! loads of wind and rain.
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    Re: Famine in Africa... yet again

    Quote Originally Posted by MSG View Post
    Isn't the cause of draught in Somalia or other effected places a direct result of highly industrialised nations churning out billions of tons of carbon dioxide!
    So what your saying is, if i was to produce more carbon dioxide i could kill off more of them? Seems a little harsh but i like a challenge.
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