My Lottery stretegy seems to work

[MSG]

Been doing a mock lotto, for the past 16 draws, having rounded up 8 best numbers from the previous 24 weeks draws, these 8 nos are those which generated maximum number of wins of at least 3 number match if not 4 number matches from the past 24 draws 16 draws ago. The results speak for themselves.

I made a net gain of £340.00 in 16 weeks, whilst each draw holds the potential to win thye jackpot or any other high prices too.

In 16 weeks I got 3 number match during the 2nd week, then quite a few 2 number matches but no further matches until the 16th week which was last saturday when I got 4 number match.

The plan uses 8 numbers permatated into 28 lines of 6 numbers that covers every possible combination of those 8 specially chosen numbers. (numbers were chosen painstakingly using a small programme in GWBasic that crunched the 24 weeks results and got the best numbers that would yield at least 8 wins in those previous 24 draw results.

With 8 nos, permatated, if you got 3 number match, this would occur 10 times and so you could win £100.00 for your £28.00 stake,

similarly if you ended up getting 4 number match, this would result in 16 x 3 number matches, thus yielding £160.00 and 4 number matches woulod occur 6 times thus winning you the price of 4 number match that was £88.00 last saturday.

However, end of the day, it is still a gamble, a gamble in which you could loose as well as win, no different to stocks and shares really, but you are in control here, you choose when to invest and when to pull out without having to go to a broker.

your odds to win are greately increased by choosing certain numbers that have the habbit of coming up more frequently than certain numbers that have not drawn at all.

I am still fine tunning the programme and once the 8 numbers are chosen, they have to be updated soon after a major win, as the trend of numbers changes in 16 weeks you have been using constantly. I must admit, I did not expect a long period (13 draws) between the first win of 3 number match and the latest that yielded in 4 number match, had it been a 3 number match then I would have been £248.00 worst off.

I will still be analyising future results with these 8 numbers I chose and also get another set of 8 numbers to see how the trend follows.


I am not actually doing it with money, but after last saturday's 4 number match, and a potential to have won a net of £340.00 I feel quite gutted as I personally doubt if another opportunity will arrise so soon again.

[Melv]

This time next year Rodney.........

[mk2astraturbo]

This time next year Rodney.........

lol

[anniman1]

whats the special numbers msg? can your program crunch into the 6 most popular winning numbers for 1 line only?

[MSG]

Obviously NOT, but playing 8 numbers can significantly increase your odds of winning and choosing the 8 numbers based on the trend of previous weeks, as i said some numbers have not been drawn at all whilst some have the tendency to emerge more frequent,

If you were fishing, you wouldn't fish where fishermen have hardly caught any fish, and you would fish where more fish is caught and hence your chance of catching increases dramatically

If you then look at another senario, if you were a fisherman, you laid just one net, your chance of catching any fish is limited, but if you laid 28 nets, your chance to catch any fish increases dramatically, but choosing the right tuype of net is just as important, hence the choice of 8 numbers is not random, if they were random 8 numbers then your chance is just as good as the maths predicts.

(I chose 8 numbers that would permatate into 28 lines which in my view is aff)ordable and losses are limited as you are likely to recover or limit your losses as the plan yields 10 times more winnings when you get just 3 number match.

[Frisco]

Put your life savings on this weeks draw

[Paul]

So come on, give us some number for tomorrow.

[MSG]

Paul, you know very well no one can predict the actual winning numbers, however, as in my example of fishing, certainly you wouldn't lay a net along a place that you know very well has poor catch, you would follow that place where you know a lot of fish is caught or has been caught, so this simply means don't use those 8 numbers that you know has not drawn at all or has drawn just once in the past say 16 draws.


The numbers i have been using were rounded up by my programme, to achieve as many wins as possible using a real sample of 24 draw results from the immediate past, that was from 16 draws ago, ( or 24 draws (Wed and sat) going back from 29th June 2011) The numbers it came up with were 2, 3, 7, 8, 17, 18, 35 ,48 which would have yielded the best possible combination to achieve at least 8 wins in that sample of 24 darws results from the past.

My stretegy was based on this trend, these 8 number combination is likely (though there is absolute no guarantee) to continue to average 8 wins in the next 24 weeks, though in reality it only yielded two wins out of so far 16 draws, but getting a 4 number match does it for you.

I have to say that the programme should have been updated during each new draw's results, to include the latest results to follow any cahnges in the patteren, that I didn'
t do, so it is still too early to say what the out come would have been had I updated the results during each draw and so that it constantly updates any of the 8 best numbers so as to remain at its best possible combination.

for example, from my 8 numbers (2, 3, 7, 8, 17, 18, 35, 48) and sampling the last 16 draws:

No 2 drew 4 times
No 3 drew 2 times
No 7 drew 2 times
No 8 drew 0 times
No 17 drew 0 times
No 18 drew 6 times
No 35 drew 4 times
No 48 drew 3 times

hence you can see according to the previous trend Nos 8 and 17 had gone out of trend, if I had been updating theese numbers by updating the programme that selects the bset combination from the past 24 draws, then these two numbers might have been replaced by different numbers that would may or may not have made a better yield,

However, the important thing here is that despite these two numbers not drawing at all during the past 16 draws, I stll managed to make a net gain of £340.00, but thanks to the faxct that last Saturdays 4 number price was £88.00, I also remember how I once won a 4 number and was gutted to find out that the price was a merely £16.00! I only use an average value of 4 number win as £45.00.


WARNING: Don't gamble on my choice of 8 numbers, if you lose you cry!Personally I might gamble on the 6 numbers that drew a number of times, for a pound, every draw from now on for the next 10 draws, thus leaving No 8 and 17 out of the selection.

[MSG]

I have to say, I spent many hours looking into ways to make odds better, soon after the National Lottery was launched, in late 1994, but after doing a few large scale gambling, which resulted in quite a lot of fun wins, nothing major, but loosing a few hundred and then gaining afew hundred, cancelled out any benefit, the programm was still being modified and getting better and better than I had unfortunately abandon everything lotto wise, work and other priorties took over leaving me very little time, now I have more time and the lotto fever has woken up again. And I intend to win, using stretegies and not just playing blindly any random numbers.

[anniman1]

my pals dad did that type of thing where 6 lines were used. he won 3.7 million and bought a hotel

[MSG]

That I would say was down to his shear luck, not the fact that he did 6 lines, I hope your pal thought of you when his dad must have given him a chunk of his winnings! LOL

[Joker]

lol good call MSG, I got hold of every lotto draw since it started and figured out the most frequent numbers that were drawn in categories such as which 2 balls came out together and 3 and so on, I picked the top 10 balls which have popped out the most since the draws began and used those numbers the past 2 weeks and won £10 both weeks, I mean it's nothing massive but it certainly worked for me lol! I have now set up a direct debit so those numbers go out every week on the wednesday and saturday so just waiting to win it big time!! If I win I will buy everyone in this thread a new car of their choice! with in reason ofcourse!

[MSG]

mine would be a brand new Cally. thanks

indeed your stretegy works, contrary to many who would argue that you can't beat the odds, you certainly can reduce odds or improve the chance of winning by stretegically choosing those numbers as you have just described, but, never be too optimistic, draw trends can change over a short period of time, and constantly needs updating, so if you set up a DD and use the same numbers over and over, you may equally loose out.

if you note how at least one number comes from a previous week's results on more occasion than not, often two numbers come from a previous week's results! (more than average)

Another thing, I do not expect to win big time, but realise that each time I enter a single line of 6 numbers, it stands same chance of winning a Jackpot as any other line of 6 numbers, however, my plan is designed to take advantage of frequently occuring numbers and using more than 6 numbers, so where you can be a little unlucky to get 3 out of 6 number match, you can dramatically increase the chance by doing 8 numbers or for that matter enter 9 numbers (using permatation method)

the good thing about permation is that not only do you get a lot better chance of matching 3 out of say 8 numbers but also if you were lucky you will get multiple matches, like in a 8 number perm you would stand to get 3 match win 10 times, and if you actually got 4 numbers out of 8, you would also match 3 numbers 16 times and the 4 number match will occur 6 times in that perm of 8 numbers costing 28 lines of 6 numbers or £28.00.

End of the day it is plain and simple gambling, and anyone who takes this on should realise that you stand an equal chance of winning or loosing.

A mate of mine used to do the same set of 5 lines week in week out, and once won 5 number match and got himself over 3 grand!

[chip]

There are no trends or patterns with any siginificance to future events, each lottery is totally seperate from all the others, NOTHING that has happened before effects the next draw.

The numbers that came up last week are just as likely to come up this week as any other set of numbers, and no more likely to do so.

[daddy cav]

Sorry to be a party pooper but agree with Chip .

[MSG]

There are no trends or patterns with any siginificance to future events, each lottery is totally seperate from all the others, NOTHING that has happened before effects the next draw.

The numbers that came up last week are just as likely to come up this week as any other set of numbers, and no more likely to do so.

Purley and scientifically speaking yes indeed you are right, but in reality things happen slightly differently, and a trend appears to emerge. Certain numbers break the rule of average and occur more frequently than others. So how do you explain this mathamatically, why for example No 18 has occured 6 times in the past 16 draws and whilst certain other numbers have not even drawn even once, so i am exploiting this behaviour or trend and use it to my advantage, and by choosing 8 numbers as oppose to 6 gives me further advantage obviously at a cost, but this then stands a lot better chance of matching at least 3 numbers out of 8 and when you perm the 8 numbers into 28 lines,

and if you were lucky and got a 3 number match, this would occur at least 10 times and if you are more lucky and match 4 numbers this makes the 3 number match go up from 10 to 16 and the 4 number match occurs 6 times, so using the same rule of averages, you are making it even, neither winning too much nor loosing too much if you did loose say 3 draws and won every 4th draw,

at the same time, each time you enter a line of 6 numbers you stand the same chance of winning the Jackpot as predicted by mathamatical odds i.e 1 in 14 million roughly and since you are doing a perm of 8 numbers into 28 lines then the odds of a jackpot are also reduced from 1 in 14million to 1 in half a million.

However, as I have stated, end of the day it is a gamble, and the numbers may not follow any trend at all, since a trend is obtained from the past results, this may change suddenly at any time hence the future trend may be altogether different. For instant the number 18 may stop coming up in any future draws.

[MSG]

13 numbers drawn 6 or more times in the past 90 days taken from National Lottery data (https://www.national-lottery.co.uk/p...encyChecker.do)

Nos 2, 3, 4, 19, 34, 45 drawn 6 times
Nos 18, 30, 32, 35, 39, 40, 45 drawn 7 times.

as far as I am concerned these are all highly likely numbers that may occur more commonly than others, ( despite the fact that every ball has an equal chance mathamatically) in the actual draw machine this is not the case, because there are other factors that may determine a rather different outcome as clearly indicated from the above data.

if one chooses 6 number combination from the above pool of 13 numbers, this increases the odds of matching 3 numbers greately, obviously with no guarantee, however, keep updating these numbers as the averages change within a few weeks,


Edited:
I don't want to give anyone false hope, as all the numbers going to draw next week are totally unpredictable, and when you do a mock run, it might have worked for you that week, and you start doing it with real money the following week or weeks, only to find that you have lost all your hard earned fortune in gambling.
Gambling is a serious addiction and very destructive, take a heavy risk only if you can affoard to loose. Don't do it because if you think its the only way you can make some urgently needed money, you will end up loosing whatever you had to begin with. This is how many people have fallen to their destruction.

Unfortunately, I see it no different to stocks and shares, I lost well over 5 grand in stock markets, I no longer invest in it anymore, lost my total faith in the markets, and I won't even in future when the markets are doing well, but playing twenty eight odd quid on a lotto game won't break my back, as I can affoard a little if I loose, all I need to do is to stop eating out and get cooking indoors and do the lotto.

[Tathan]

Reminds me of Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead by Tom Stoppard. One of them's perpetually unsurprised by tossing a coin a couple of hundred times and it coming up heads every time, because each and every time he tosses the coin it's 50:50. So even on the 100th go, there is no surprise that on that particular go he gets heads. So i guess my point is that as others have said, each time you do it it's a fresh go, lady luck has no memory.

Funny play, recommend it. Good film too, Gary Oldman and Tim Roth.

[Nemesis]

I just tossed a coin 4 times. I got 3 heads and 1 tails. This means next toss, it's much more likely to be heads because that's the current trend

Mike, you're crazy dude lmao It's random. Of course you'll get some numbers coming up more than others but that's chance.

[king nero]

mine would be a brand new Cally. thanks

he said cars !

[Ed]

How can there possibly be any trend whatsoever with lottery numbers!? lmao

It's a lottery; by it's very definition, it is random......end of.

[MSG]

Of course Ben, how right you and Tathan and Chip are, so i said avoid temptation, only gamble if you can affoard to loose your money, don't do it in anticipation that you might win.. Thanks guys any way.

I have come across many people who did lotto in a big way, like spending a fortune each week, and have never won anything apart from a few tenners! and those who did a few lines of the same numbers regularly for a [pound or two managed to win 5 number match!


yes Ed. it is as I have clearly stated it is a gamble, you take all the risk if you can absorb loosing a small fortune, on the other hand you never know what it might bring! LOL (most probably tears!)

[Ed]

Yes it's gambling and you might be lucky, I'm not arguing that. But I am saying there is no trend to it, so no way of predicting anything!

And for the love of god: it's LOSE not LOOSE

I could correct that mistake at least once a day on this forum!

[BigDave1979]

The strategy is good for maximising wins based on matching some of a combination of numbers since the chance of matching on multiple lines is greatly increased - this is simply playing the odds. Seeing patterns of numbers emerging from historic wins however is pure superstition.

In the same way there are "lucky shops" all over the country. Some shops seem to produce more winning tickets than others and the old superstitious thinking kicks in resulting in more and more people using the same shops in the belief they have a greater chance of a win. Sure they issue a greater number of winning tickets, but what people subconciously dismiss is the fact that the number of winning tickets per number of tickets issued by that vendor is predictably in line with the odds of the game.

[chip]

Purley and scientifically speaking yes indeed you are right, but in reality things happen slightly differently, and a trend appears to emerge. Certain numbers break the rule of average and occur more frequently than others. So how do you explain this mathamatically, why for example No 18 has occured 6 times in the past 16 draws and whilst certain other numbers have not even drawn even once,

Because that is exactly the sort of behaviour that you expect statistically when dealing with a small sample.

Just like if I throw a dice 6 times I wont get one of each number in a perfect distribution.

You dont even grasp the most fundamental principles of statistics.

so i am exploiting this behaviour or trend and use it to my advantage, and by choosing 8 numbers as oppose to 6 gives me further advantage obviously at a cost, but this then stands a lot better chance of matching at least 3 numbers out of 8 and when you perm the 8 numbers into 28 lines,

Spending 28 times the amount of money gives you upto 28 times the chance of winning.
However because of the way that you are forcing your 28 all to have elements of the same 8, you actually have LESS chance of winning.

and if you were lucky and got a 3 number match, this would occur at least 10 times and if you are more lucky and match 4 numbers this makes the 3 number match go up from 10 to 16 and the 4 number match occurs 6 times, so using the same rule of averages, you are making it even, neither winning too much nor loosing too much if you did loose say 3 draws and won every 4th draw,

Of course, you are making it less likely you win, but more likely that if you win you will win more than once.

at the same time, each time you enter a line of 6 numbers you stand the same chance of winning the Jackpot as predicted by mathamatical odds i.e 1 in 14 million roughly and since you are doing a perm of 8 numbers into 28 lines then the odds of a jackpot are also reduced from 1 in 14million to 1 in half a million.

incorrect, see my comment above that because you have made the lines interconnected you have lowered your overall chance of winning.

However, as I have stated, end of the day it is a gamble, and the numbers may not follow any trend at all, since a trend is obtained from the past results, this may change suddenly at any time hence the future trend may be altogether different. For instant the number 18 may stop coming up in any future draws.

That is the ONLY correct thing you have written, as per my original comment what has happening in the past has NO bearing on the next draw.