hung Parliament...

[hay_lewis_68]

... what exactly does this mean for us? can someone educate me please

[Paul]

Just watch the news for 10 minutes, should fill you in

[Paul]

Here you go, all the info you ever need

BBC News - Hung parliament: What happens next?

[hay_lewis_68]

cheers Paul

[Nemesis]

No single party has a majority, so if they tried to pass laws they'd probably be out-voted and nobody would get anywhere. What they are trying to do now is for 2 parites to form an alliance to try and pool their powers together.

Labour and Lib Dem looks most likely - they have a fair bit of common ground between them and also between voters/supporters

Lib Dem and Conservative looks less likely IMO - they can't agree on trident (nuclear weapons) and Europe.

It's a mess.

[Gaz86]

proper mess, I lol @ people not getting their votes, what is this Iran?

[hay_lewis_68]

i think the system of seats is nothing short of rigging the election. imo if there is x, y and z partys, and x gets more votes than, y and z, then x win. simple as that, none of this seats crap.

[Hugh Jeers]

i think the system of seats is nothing short of rigging the election. imo if there is x, y and z partys, and x gets more votes than, y and z, then x win. simple as that, none of this seats crap.

Bollocks. They should still work it off seats, but the party with the most seats, should be in power. None of this majority crap.

[jamied]

No single party has a majority, so if they tried to pass laws they'd probably be out-voted and nobody would get anywhere. What they are trying to do now is for 2 parites to form an alliance to try and pool their powers together.

Labour and Lib Dem looks most likely - they have a fair bit of common ground between them and also between voters/supporters
- you sure you got this right????? will not make up the 326 seats needed
Lib Dem and Conservative looks less likely IMO - they can't agree on trident (nuclear weapons) and Europe.

It's a mess.

Also it will not help business in the uk as passing laws...ect will now take twice/three times as long to be passed and then we could have another ballot in 6 months....possibly another..and another...and another...

It also affects Uk business trading in foreign areas on credit.

[Allvaux]

From listening to the news today it would appear Labour and Lib Dems does NOT look most likely. Clegg has stated twice that he won't work with Labour if Brown's in charge and Cameron has offered him a better deal.

[Nemesis]

Clegg has stated twice that he won't work with Labour if Brown's in charge and Cameron has offered him a better deal.

Yep I agree on that, but you have to agree that politically, a centre left and a centre right party will have a hard time getting along on a LOT of issues. All the news reports are full of people saying they'll quit the party if Clegg "sells them out" to the tories. Because lets face it, Libs under Cameron would be nothing more than lap dogs.

I can't see Lib getting trident scrapped under the tories for example, which is one of their cornerstones and very much tied into money.

[Gaz86]

Bollocks. They should still work it off seats, but the party with the most seats, should be in power. None of this majority crap.

Agreed but then when it comes to passing laws etc the other 2 party's will make it nigh on impossible, sensible system when you sit back and have a look.

[Hugh Jeers]

Can't see the Lib 'open doors' policy working for the Tories either, or scrapping the Eurofighter.

[Hugh Jeers]

Agreed but then when it comes to passing laws etc the other 2 party's will make it nigh on impossible, sensible system when you sit back and have a look.

They have that problem now LOL.

[Gaz86]

I know but that because Mahmoud Ahmadinejad haz all teh voetz!!

[Trevor]

Bollocks. They should still work it off seats, but the party with the most seats, should be in power. None of this majority crap.

The problem then is is our Parliament is set up as a government and an opposition and as we generally see that is exactly what they do, there is seldom any joined up politics. So as a result every minority government would not get anything through Parliament as the opposition would simply block it, so they would not have any power. So your idea fails.

[Trevor]

From listening to the news today it would appear Labour and Lib Dems does NOT look most likely. Clegg has stated twice that he won't work with Labour if Brown's in charge and Cameron has offered him a better deal.

It is not down to Clegg though, the LDs have a three-lock system where it is not the party leader who dictates policy. It goes past the members, the exact wording is as follows:

Conference agrees that:

(i) in the event of any substantial proposal which could affect the Party’s independence of political action, the consent will be required of a majority of members of the Parliamentary Party in the House of Commons and the Federal Executive; and,

(ii) unless there is a three-quarters majority of each group in favour of the proposals, the consent of the majority of those present and voting at a Special Conference convened under clause 6.6 of the Constitution; and,

(iii) unless there is a two-thirds majority of those present and voting at that Conference in favour of the proposals, the consent of a majority of all members of the Party voting in the ballot called pursuant to clause 6.11 or 8.6 of the Constitution.

So two thids of the party would have to back him on it or it deos not happen. And as the majority of the party are more aligned with the Labour Party's views we shall just have to wait and see.

[Hugh Jeers]

The problem then is is our Parliament is set up as a government and an opposition and as we generally see that is exactly what they do, there is seldom any joined up politics. So as a result every minority government would not get anything through Parliament as the opposition would simply block it, so they would not have any power. So your idea fails.

Not being funny here, but even with a majority, parties get their own members disagreeing with certain policies brought up...

[Trevor]

Not being funny here, but even with a majority, parties get their own members disagreeing with certain policies brought up...

Whilst that is true the usual case with MPs is that if they do not toe the party line they get the whip withdrawn, which is politics talk for being disowned by the party for a period of time, and this would also effect the person's chances of being allowed by their party to stand for election next time round and so get kicked off the gravy train. So virtually every MP's principles will be over ridden by the fear of losing their job.

[C20Brett]

Labour Lib Dem coalition may have looked most likley, but even together they still dont have a Majority and would have to rely on several other parties. Then you start to get doubts about how stable that govt will be.

It a complete and utter mess, but I think the likley outcome is a 'Supply of confidence' agreement with Tory/Lib Dem, not a full coalition.

[Trevor]

Labour Lib Dem coalition may have looked most likley, but even together they still dont have a Majority and would have to rely on several other parties.

Yes but it would be the Nationalists who have already said that they will work with Labour. What they have not said is what the price is......

No one won the election, the electorate gave no party a majority but that does not mean the tiny minority parties should hold the balance of power.

[C20Brett]

If Labour and the Lib Dems work with the nationalists of NI, Wales and Scotland it means we in England will bear the brunt of the cut backs

Hung parliments give small partys the oppourtunity to force their own minority agenda. Hence the Lib Dems pushing PR when it was hardly an election issue.

I'd rather anyone won outright than this!!

[jo4nny8]

just been on that lib dems are now talking with labour. Keep mentioning that their doing in in country's best interest. MY ASS,

There doing it in their best interest to play one off against the other and get the most out of it for themselves. NICK CLEGG YOU SAUSAGE JOCKEY

[jaye944]

This went on for such a long time
it had become a WELL hung parliament"

[jaye944]

problem is, the majority "crap" is important.

Because, as has already said by Nemesis, if not when a bill is voted on, then it can result in a stalemate, and nothing would get done voted in or out.

Thats is bad. This is what happened in the last coalition and it all fell to pieces, no one could decide and make any decsions.

The city and confidence is needed to have somone that can make a decision good, bad or ugly.
When the city has no confidence no one will want to invest, but, borrow or loan,

in short you and me bruv are well shafted regadless

its always better to have any PARTY IN that have nothing.
Hence why givernments try not to de-stabalise countries by removing a leader , even a dictator as that casues more problems
i.,e anarchy.

without having some kind of leadership already in place

Bollocks. They should still work it off seats, but the party with the most seats, should be in power. None of this majority crap.