Hamilton stripped of race win!

[GDN16v]

as for the valencia thing, we have seen previously this season in F1 cars racing side by side in the pit lane, and no one batted an eylid or started shouting about it being dangerous

I agree

Yes there have been, but when someone does it before hand in the same pit lane at the same track and get a different punishment, it doesnt fit!!

Jarno Trulli comments unusually echo the sounds of exactly what massa said in his interview!!

[lee303]

I agree, he is pioneering this move and it needs nipping in the bud.

i also dont think he will have done himself any favours when he said of the stewards in the press conferance, ' i dont think i'll get a fine but you knwow what they're like so maybe'

[lee303]

I agree

Yes theyre have been but when someone does it before hand in the same pit lane at the same track and get a different punishment doesnt fit!!

Jarno Trulli comments unusually echo the sounds of exactly what massa said in his interview!!

did you actually watch the gp2 one? not the same by a long long way

[Neil Adams]

Which just goes to prove that the rules are full of grey patches and certainly not black and white!!!lmao lmao lmao lmao lmao lmao lmao lmao lmao

So its fine to gain a position by taking a different line off track to gain position and a speed advantage up the back straight, but not to do the same thing to avoid a collision!! If that run off area had of been gravel Raikkonen would of been out on the first lap!

OMG It's like teaching Japanese to a puppy. The rules are black and white. They are printed and make perfect sense it would seem to everybody except yourself.

The rule states very very very clearly that a driver MUST NOT LEAVE THE TRACK. How is that confusing? What part of that rule is 'grey' to you?

The sole issue isn't the rule at all, it's that the stewards are not applying the rule to everybody that breaks it.

[Neil Adams]

i also dont think he will have done himself any favours when he said of the stewards in the press conferance, ' i dont think i'll get a fine but you knwow what they're like so maybe'

lmao did he say that? FPMSL! Well I guess he was right! lmao

[GDN16v]

OMG It's like teaching Japanese to a puppy. The rules are black and white. They are printed and make perfect sense it would seem to everybody except yourself.

The rule states very very very clearly that a driver MUST NOT LEAVE THE TRACK. How is that confusing? What part of that rule is 'grey' to you?

The sole issue isn't the rule at all, it's that the stewards are not applying the rule to everybody that breaks it.

Youre quoting rules that are open to interpretation by humans not computers so they can have a different say and a different view, BIG GREY AREA!!!!! lmao lmao lmao

So if thats so clearly stated, Raikkonen ran OFF TRACK at the first corner and then again on the second lap and then again after the incident at pouhon. So he was OFF TRACK and gaining advantage!!! He was so off track at the end he binned it in the wall!

[Neil Adams]

OK well tell me how you would interpret the words MUST NOT LEAVE THE TRACK in respect of Lewis Hamilton leaving the track at the chicane.

[GDN16v]

OK well tell me how you would interpret the words MUST NOT LEAVE THE TRACK in respect of Lewis Hamilton leaving the track at the chicane.

If he just kept going, after been forced off track, he would of been braking on the high painted green kerbs on the inside of the corner which would of led to him, bottoming out the car, spearing the side of Raikkonen's car and taking each other off (probably would of got fined or penalised after the race aswell). Much safer to take the escape road, lift the throttle to let Raikkonen back past and keep the racing going which it did to good affect, best part of the race!!

If Raikkonen had of kept his lead after Hamilton had to brake for the Williams rejoining the track after the incident, nothing would have been done!

OK well tell me how you would interpret the words MUST NOT LEAVE THE TRACK in respect of Kimi Raikkonen leaving the track at the first corner to gain advantage over Massa and then again at Pouhon?

[lee303]

lewis also went off on the outside of pouhon, he came back on earlier, but was accelrating off the track for the first half

[GDN16v]

lewis also went off on the outside of pouhon, he came back on earlier, but was accelrating off the track for the first half

Yes he did, he and Raikkonen slid off the track one after the other, but Hamilton quickly turned the car back onto the track, where as Raikkonen ran all the way round at a quicker pace to close the gap back to Hamilton!

The escape roads are theyre for a reason, if you slide alittle wide you can still carry on by turning back onto the track with out damage or beaching the car on gravel or kerbs (also safer in the dry at high speed).

[DeXx250]

At the end of the day the sport has turned into a farce with ridiculous inside politics.