National ID cards!

**Pattycake** · 29-03-2006 19:13

I personally think they are a really bad idea. It think they will seriously compromise our personal security, via identity theft. I also think that it is just another way for the government to control us, whatch our every move and keep tabs on our daily lives. I'm sure they wont stop there either........

This site has a petition against them...

http://www.libdems.org.uk/noidcards/

Viva La Revolution!

**Brett** · 29-03-2006 19:16

bit late for petitions mate, although I agree totally with you.
I belive the Lords finally let it through tonight too

**Pattycake** · 29-03-2006 19:21

Originally Posted by Brett

bit late for petitions mate, although I agree totally with you.
I belive the Lords finally let it through tonight too

I dont support the Lib Dems as a party btw, I just strongly object to Id Cards, and yes the Lords have 'compromised' with the government, which led me to the above site. They have sold us out

**Mk2 man** · 29-03-2006 19:31

Hum its supposed to be the case there being brought in to bring us into line with Europe i read in the paper. They will have to be hyped massively and they will be faced so may be a threat to security as for person freedom with about this new traffic system that monitors all car journeys in Britain!!!!!!!!!!

**lethal** · 29-03-2006 19:34

I hear Bliar is trying on his jackboots and peaked cap even as we speak.

**Pattycake** · 29-03-2006 20:53

Tony Blair is a *****! I did'nt vote for him. And those who did, I hope your chuffed with yourselves..

**rhydgte** · 29-03-2006 21:06

My opinion on politics - 'Better the devil you know'

They're all as bad as each other tbh, just in different ways

**Mk2 man** · 29-03-2006 21:39

Originally Posted by rhydgte

My opinion on politics - 'Better the devil you know'

They're all as bad as each other tbh, just in different ways

Yes but a point must come..........

**lethal** · 29-03-2006 21:41

Originally Posted by rhydgte

My opinion on politics - 'Better the devil you know'

I wonder if they were saying that in Germany in '33.

**gixerboyuk** · 29-03-2006 22:23

Gotta agree with a column in one of the newspapers. The next election ballot paper should have a box at the bottom with 'NONE OF THE ABOVE' written next to it.

**Jayen4** · 29-03-2006 23:34

This is one of my current 'pet hates' !!

For those of us with driving licences,we've already got I.D. haven't we !!

I heard that we'll have to pay around £38 for one......fook that,if they want me to have one,then THEY can bloody well pay for it !!

Same thing for HGV drivers,with the new digital tachographs.....you're supposed to buy a 'digi card' to record your hours of work. Again,another £38....... All this sh*te is coming from Europe !!

Does my right in....

**lethal** · 29-03-2006 23:35

Originally Posted by Jayen4

I heard that we'll have to pay around £38 for one......fook that,if they want me to have one,then THEY can bloody well pay for it !!

More realistically try £90 or more.

**Jayen4** · 29-03-2006 23:38

Yeah,well I won't be paying that!! I already know who I am !!

**lewism1987** · 29-03-2006 23:40

thing i dont get is, why isnt there a sensible person like us normal people that want things that dont spin money but do good for the country. why the FOOK do we need to monitor every car in the country but have little chavs roaming the streets terrorising society

**gixerboyuk** · 29-03-2006 23:50

Originally Posted by lewism1987

thing i dont get is, why isnt there a sensible person like us normal people that want things that dont spin money but do good for the country. why the FOOK do we need to monitor every car in the country but have little chavs roaming the streets terrorising society

Normal people are everywhere it's just that you are being controlled by them in whitehall/downing st etc. You are not alone in how you feel. Its the minority that are wrong, just that them in power are not listening to the majority i.e. YOU and ME and the rest of the country

**Pablopancake** · 30-03-2006 07:13

who's a bill hicks fan on this thread?

**Dom** · 30-03-2006 07:17

I'd have no objection if they replaced the overly expensive Passport but whats wrong with using a Passport for ID ?

**cambridge** · 30-03-2006 07:44

as dom said, passports (and driving licenses) have been ID for years now. and if some middle eastern religion woman can get away with wearing her black gear for a photocard DL then the whole point of ID cards etc is out of the window!!

Ive added a couple of times to the bottom of my ballot slip with "None of them, but voiced my right to vote, thanks"

**Pablopancake** · 30-03-2006 08:05

who is the company behind the cards? what's the link with the cabinet?

as with everything, it's only a matter of time before the loophole is found, someone hacks the database, or can edit data in the cards or whatever

i 100% believe this is a backhanded way of monitoring the entire population, and these cards will take on additional 'duties' as time goes by

as with the anpr numberplate system, it just collects data and stores it, so your mway movements are logged

we'll end up swiping these cards to get into banks/businesses etc, our entry and exit will be logged for future reference

truly bad bad news

i'm hoping labour really come up stinking of sheeite with this loans/donations/peership thing, if the cons are smelly too then so be it, there's no difference between them, but another labour term will have us all wearing chips in our necks like cats and dogs

**Pattycake** · 30-03-2006 10:08

Originally Posted by Pablopancake

who is the company behind the cards? what's the link with the cabinet?

as with everything, it's only a matter of time before the loophole is found, someone hacks the database, or can edit data in the cards or whatever

i 100% believe this is a backhanded way of monitoring the entire population, and these cards will take on additional 'duties' as time goes by

as with the anpr numberplate system, it just collects data and stores it, so your mway movements are logged

we'll end up swiping these cards to get into banks/businesses etc, our entry and exit will be logged for future reference

truly bad bad news

i'm hoping labour really come up stinking of sheeite with this loans/donations/peership thing, if the cons are smelly too then so be it, there's no difference between them, but another labour term will have us all wearing chips in our necks like cats and dogs

I'm right there with you, soon we all just be numbers with chips or barcodes on us. With no freedom whatsoever.

**Pablopancake** · 30-03-2006 10:11

and we let it happen, let's have some protests/riots

**howellsy** · 30-03-2006 10:14

its a big load of bollocks ifu ask me.what every one is saying is true its just another way of tracking are momments i like the idea of riots lets start showing them that were not going to take this lying down !!

**Pattycake** · 30-03-2006 10:16

Originally Posted by Pablopancake

and we let it happen, let's have some protests/riots

We really should, its about time us the British public stood up for ourselves, instead of bending over waiting to be shafted by our government.

Yes sir another one up the arse please

**Chris R** · 30-03-2006 10:19

Who will be paying for the I.D cards if your on benefits? Tax payers?

**Chris R** · 30-03-2006 10:23

110% behind I.D cards if it puts a end to refugees and Asylum seekers.

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