ive been offered a C20XE which i really want. plus its out of a mates astra, which he has rebuild himself numerous times, it pulled 188 bhp at the fly 2 months ago, and was accuratcly timed using gps 0.60 at 6.60 sec's!
so its a good engine!
ne way
i am a fairly technical person when it comes to cars, had a mini when i was 15 and i do most thigns on my car myself, i.e. lowering it, oil chang'e s cambelt change's etc etc etc
im failry willing to try ne thing as i kno quite a lot, so my question is how easy is this engine swap?
i know the parts i need, all except for the struts? dont understand what needs to be changed there and to what?
Theres an obvious insurance thing with swapping it.
I assume at 188bhp its got mappable managment which probably makes things easier. Take the wiring loom out of the old car and your need the ECU, the radiator, the gearbox and most of the pipework. Oh and the driveshafts I would think.
I don't know what mounts you will need, or if the GSi mounts where different to the GTE ones.
Bren on here did a similar transplant, a C20LET into a 1.4 so he should be able to tell you the mounts you need
its got standard management and standard injection, full de-cat exhaust, filter and group N cams, he pulled 188bhp i cant take it witha pinch of salt as i was standard next to the rolling road whn it was tested he has a print out to prove,
its got standard management and standard injection, full de-cat exhaust, filter and group N cams, he pulled 188bhp i cant take it witha pinch of salt as i was standard next to the rolling road whn it was tested he has a print out to prove,
I'm not getting into this argument again. It does not have 188bhp, the rolling road was wrong (which happens far more often than you'd think). I doubt it even has 170bhp. I got 183bhp on my car once with a standard engine without even a cam upgrade.
188 is not possible from standard induction, basic physics prevent it.
OK ive got cesaro currntly running C14SE jobby
ive been offered a C20XE which i really want. plus its out of a mates astra, which he has rebuild himself numerous times, it pulled 188 bhp at the fly 2 months ago, and was accuratcly timed using gps 0.60 at 6.60 sec's!
so its a good engine!
ne way
i am a fairly technical person when it comes to cars, had a mini when i was 15 and i do most thigns on my car myself, i.e. lowering it, oil chang'e s cambelt change's etc etc etc
im failry willing to try ne thing as i kno quite a lot, so my question is how easy is this engine swap?
i know the parts i need, all except for the struts? dont understand what needs to be changed there and to what?
You'd need to change the struts over because the 2.0 uses larger driveshafts/hubs/CVs and wheel bearings to match. Get the struts from any "big block" engined Astra.
There'll be no need to change the fuel pump as mentioned above because you already have an MPi engine in the car and the MPi fuel pumps apparently all run at the same pressure, whether they're in a 1.0 12v Corsa, or a 2.0 Astra You'll need to get the fuel pipe that screws into the fuel rail on the XE though because I'm sure that's unique to the 20XE.
not unique atall, infact completely to the contery, my corsa 1.0 12v has the same thread on the fuel lines, as does the c20LET, and alot of other vauxhall engines i have looked at, however, i have a feeling that the 8V's are slightly different, although the later ones probably have threaded fuel lines too... (it makes like alot easier for those vaux technintions dosent it!) im sure you could get the pipes from any scrappy, if you needed to.
not unique atall, infact completely to the contery, my corsa 1.0 12v has the same thread on the fuel lines, as does the c20LET, and alot of other vauxhall engines i have looked at, however, i have a feeling that the 8V's are slightly different, although the later ones probably have threaded fuel lines too... (it makes like alot easier for those vaux technintions dosent it!) im sure you could get the pipes from any scrappy, if you needed to.
i think if you get one with a loom from an astra, it will be a piece of pie to fit... just a case of unplugging the big round connectior, and plugging the new one in.then its just the connector that goes to the battery, and the black connector in the drivers foot well for the diagnostics.
you will need newosf and rear mount brackets, best to go for astra gsi or sri ones but cav 2.0 are the same.
Fuel pump i belive will be ok, i fitted a C20SEH into a 1.4 SI mk3 and used original fuel pump., with no problem.
as mentioned you will need the gearbox, driveshafts, and hub's or complete struts as the dia' of the shaft's is different to your ones (larger).
Cooling is another issue to consider, try to get as many pipes as possible with the engine you will probally need to fit a mk3 gsi or sri rad and fan depending on condition of your current one, also might find the inlet and outlet to be smaller than the hose's.
Wiring is easy, fRemove your engine loom complete (goes through bulkhead into footwell) fit new loom in, nearer the time send me a PM and i will send you a file with all wiring needed.
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