Which Petrol Do You Prefer For Performance?

[specks]

i will only use shell v-power,tried a few others and the cav never felt as smooth or as responsive.

[tathan]

Originally Posted by Chavtastic

Is it cost effective to buy/make toluene to add to fuel?

Yeah, toluene is what's in paint stripper, get a couple of barrels of Nitromors, just don't spill it.

But, in all fairness, Tesco99 is cheap enough. If you're not mapped for it, it's utterly pointless anyway. I've used Tesco99 extensively on a Opti98 map and knocklink was utterly silent, so it's obviously more resistant to knock than Opti98, whatever the bedroom mappers say.

Bonus with Tesco99 is if you do your weekly shop then fill up, you get a few pennies off too.

[NWiMiE]

i always fill up with v-power

[tommychimp]

V power or BP Ultimate, Thats when i can afford to though!

[Steve!]

Originally Posted by Chavtastic

Is it cost effective to buy/make toluene to add to fuel?

Originally Posted by Allvaux

Who knows mate but you`d need to be mad to do so. Toluene is a volatile product with an extremely low rate of staticity and if you`d seen what I`d seen when it goes up you wouldn`t go within ten miles of the stuff. Believe me mate it`s to be kept well clear of and left to the boffins in lab`s to play with.

Quote of the year!!

[spiderman46]

ive found optimax is v good, dont put it in me car tho, dont love it that much, put it in me bike!! car 4 show, bike 4 goooooooooooo!!!!

[Allvaux]

Originally Posted by Steve!

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Quote of the year!!

Thankyou.


Chav/Commander Keen: Toluene is also found in thinners, paints, pharmaceuticals and more and I will repeat is NOT to be used by anyone who`s not trained to deal with it. Ditto stuff like Xylene, Octene and others.
Sorry to sound like a lecturing old tw*t but I`ve seen first hand the effects of when it goes wrong and it ain`t nice.

[tathan]

I know, it's in Nitromors that's what I said

I'd imagine that it isn't anywhere neat though - like you say it's very nasty stuff, and even Nitromors will still blister laquered paint in seconds, so having a lager with toluene chaser is probably not a Good Thing.

[Allvaux]

Originally Posted by Commander Keen

I know, it's in Nitromors that's what I said

I'd imagine that it isn't anywhere neat though - like you say it's very nasty stuff, and even Nitromors will still blister laquered paint in seconds, so having a lager with toluene chaser is probably not a Good Thing.

I`d have thought not mate I did manage to swallow a small amount of
hexene the other week, can`t say I`d recommend it.

Apologies for not getting the Nitromors connection, must be all the chemicals going to my brain. Have to say in a totally non-pc stylee that it would be funny to see Chav trying to squeeze the toluene out of nitromors.

[tathan]

http://www.elektro.com/~audi/audi/toluene.html

[MikeWarner]

I've always used Optimax/V-Power but I have recently started using BP Ultimate just to see the difference. I'm pretty impressed with it TBH. Difficult to gauge which gives the best power though. BP Ultimate is 97ron where Shell V-Power is 99ish. Octane rating isn't the only thing that gives power though. The BP stuff is supposed to have a higher calorific value, so burns with more energy.

[gatecrasher3]

Originally Posted by Commander Keen

Yeah, toluene is what's in paint stripper, get a couple of barrels of Nitromors, just don't spill it.

But, in all fairness, Tesco99 is cheap enough. If you're not mapped for it, it's utterly pointless anyway. I've used Tesco99 extensively on a Opti98 map and knocklink was utterly silent, so it's obviously more resistant to knock than Opti98, whatever the bedroom mappers say.

Bonus with Tesco99 is if you do your weekly shop then fill up, you get a few pennies off too.

I had the Scoob mapped by Andy Forrest on V-Power but on the odd occassion that I have put Tesco 99 ron in when I couldn't find a Shell station I found the knock reading on the hand controller to be a lot higher than when using V-Power. Also it doesn't seem to pull as hard with the Tesco fuel either.

[MikeWarner]

Originally Posted by gatecrasher3

I had the Scoob mapped by Andy Forrest on V-Power but on the odd occassion that I have put Tesco 99 ron in when I couldn't find a Shell station I found the knock reading on the hand controller to be a lot higher than when using V-Power. Also it doesn't seem to pull as hard with the Tesco fuel either.

Thanks is good to know. Any chance you could check out how BP Ultimate fares?

[tathan]

Originally Posted by gatecrasher3

I had the Scoob mapped by Andy Forrest on V-Power but on the odd occassion that I have put Tesco 99 ron in when I couldn't find a Shell station I found the knock reading on the hand controller to be a lot higher than when using V-Power. Also it doesn't seem to pull as hard with the Tesco fuel either.

I found that they were about the same in terms of knock but Tesco is about 10p cheaper

It won't produce quite as much power on Tesco, you are right about that, because it's bio-ethanol boosted which is 'low cal' lol

[tathan]

Originally Posted by MikeWarner

Thanks is good to know. Any chance you could check out how BP Ultimate fares?

The last time I put that stuff in, the car was knocking its conkers off (mapped for 101RON at the time though lol, but Opti/Tesco wasn't doing it as badly). Can't comment on performance as I was too scared to use any.

[Rob]

Well, the RR today showed that better fuel can and does make a difference. Bodster's 888 astra made 217bhp on Wallace's rollers in October and its been untouched since then and it ran 206 today. Only difference was he had v-power last time and 95RON today!

[gatecrasher3]

Originally Posted by Rob

Well, the RR today showed that better fuel can and does make a difference. Bodster's 888 astra made 217bhp on Wallace's rollers in October and its been untouched since then and it ran 206 today. Only difference was he had v-power last time and 95RON today!

Perhaps his ECU can cope to a degree with the higher octane and advance the timing, etc to accomodate. I can't see such as an XE for example being able to do the same. Also has the Astra in question had a remap or chip change?

[tommychimp]

Filled up with V-power this morning and god the astra pulls like a train now, makes it feel like a different motor i thought i'd have issues with the ecu etc. but seems fine.

[Rob]

Originally Posted by gatecrasher3

Perhaps his ECU can cope to a degree with the higher octane and advance the timing, etc to accomodate. I can't see such as an XE for example being able to do the same. Also has the Astra in question had a remap or chip change?

Nope. Nothing at all. The only difference was the fuel

[gatecrasher3]

Originally Posted by Rob

Nope. Nothing at all. The only difference was the fuel

The ECU must be able to "learn" enough to make a noticable difference.

[Rob]

Russell at Wallace was saying it can cause up to 10bhp differences! And he is not one to just randomly speak crap.

The ECU must be able to learn more than we think!

[CraigGreen]

IIRC wasnt RDS sticking white spirit or similar in his tank @ PV?

Is tuolene safe for fuel lines/pipes etc in higher concentration?

Anyone ever tried Silkolene Pro boost?

[coolamasta]

Always used to run the GSiT on Optimax/V-power and have to with the Evo!

[Allvaux]

Originally Posted by CraigGreen

IIRC wasnt RDS sticking white spirit or similar in his tank @ PV?

Is tuolene safe for fuel lines/pipes etc in higher concentration?

Anyone ever tried Silkolene Pro boost?

It`s not safe full stop mate.

[CortraGTE]

I think the result of this is mainly gonna be based on where everyone stay, BP Ultimate is easy to get round my way but the nearest shell garage is about 11 miles away and the nearest BP well i have 3 within 5 miles