yeah all that. think you have got the right idea
def get decent pistons, rod bolts and a nice crank grinding job done
i would leave the cams for the TBs as standard management wont like anything useful in there
valves are fine, headwork is handy i would send it off to vtuning for porous fix and work
rebore will be roughly 40 quid basic with another 25 to get the bores plateau hone finished (very smooth, worth getting)
i am in st andrews and no, crails a rip off, havent been for years lmao
400 for the pistons 87mm is good
87mm Omega pistons - apr 400
ARP rod bolts - 80'ish ( last time i bought they were for a x14xe)
rebore - apr 70quid (always thought it would be more than that, or is that per cly)
head injected then reworked - budget about 500-600 all in ?
The slipper pistons are super lightweight jobs, I dont think they last too long. You'll be wanting the 87.000XS omegas which are a little longer lasting.
To get any benefit from superlightweight pistons tho, you'll need the lightweight crank (to go with the special steel cons for slippers). The crank will set you back £2500 for a Doug Kiddie job. Then of course there's the lightweight flywheel and clutch assembly... kinda like this
If you're gonna go to this extreme then you'll also be having a cam profile to take full advantage..which means solids and megabucks on a head reshim. The labour for that alone is about £500.
what do you get for 500 labour? its easy enough to do it yourself.
you are basically running thro the spec my engine will be at next year if i bother keeping it. (oh apart from the crank lol but i can get those for 1500 lmao)
We can supply you with an 86.5mm or 88.00mm piston. We do not do an 87.00mm piston
PIST-OM86.50SLS £544.00 +VAT
PIST-OM88.00SLS £544.00 +VAT
ROD-148S £832.00 +VAT
The slipper pistons can only be used with the special long 148S rod. The rod is of a narrow width journal design which means it can only be used in conjunction with CRK-1 (£1600 +VAT). We do have one which is from a cancelled order which is available at £1250.00 +VAT. The rods also have a special 5/16 threaded bolt which is made to an extremely high specification to help reduce the rod weight, but has to be made to this high strength to cope with the loads when using such a small diameter bolt. This is the reason why the rod is so expensive. These components are designed for use on engines which rev in excess of 9,000rpm and produce over 280bhp.
would 88mm be advisable?
re, omega jobbies
PIST-OM87.00XS £387.20 +VAT
ROD-143S £668.00 +VAT
Rod bolts are included in both sets of rods. The RB1K is designed for use on the standard rod. The price for these is £64.00 +VAT. Carriage cost is £20.88 +VAT.
i think the omega, or pot pistons sound the more sensible option hehehe
We have recently done a rebuild to relativly standard spec costs as follows
1) rebore £ 80.00
2) Pistons £ 45.03 each including rings Standard
3) Grind crank £ 80.00
4) Lighten fly whell and balance crank ,flywheel and pully £60.00
5) Deck block £ 35.00
6) Skim head £40.00
7) Three angle Valve seats £ 40.00
8) acid clean block and head £ 15.00
9) Shell Big ends and mains £ 39.00
10) top and bottem gasket sets £80.00
11) ARP Big end bolts £ 59.00
12) Competion main end bolts £ 10.00
13) water pump £ 22.00
14) cam belt and pully kit £ 96.00
15) Pocket piston tops to allow for high lift cams £ 50.00
16) various new plated bolts on engine £ 40.00
17) vapour blast inlet manifold and plated part6s £ 100.00
18) Tape for exhuast manifold £ 55.00
19) Braide fuel lines in engine bay £ 60.99
20) alloy fuel line flow and return to tank+ fittings £ 50.00
And on and on and on and more money. ohh yes and TAS engine mount £ 90.00
SBD tend to tailor their kits to each customer, i.e for some they'll do the whole engine build and for others they'll only do bits. If you want them to build the lump, they'll insist on a dry cell dyno run in.
Not entirely sure what is included in TP250 but I know you'll need the following at least:
* Steel rod set (143mm)
* 87mm (or whatever you're having your block bored to) Omega/SBD piston set.
* High spec (black top) fuel pressure regulator.
* Fuel fittings
* Shimmed head on TP250 cams - including necessary lightweight followers and double valve springs. Plus new valves.
* Machine head and or pistons to desired compression ratio.
* Compressed steel head gasket - not GM. GM gaskets can be used elsewhere tho.
* Steel oil pump gear and nylon pressure release valve - possibly new oil pump housing if old unit is scored.
* New oil pickup pipe - old one is bound to be sludged.
* Baffled or dry sump system if you're planning on tracking it
* MBE 967 ECU and loom + injectors + base map.
Also in terms of your bottom end build you'll be wanting new Lead-Copper bearings - which I believe aren't the shiny GM standard ones.
Pretty fooking pricey, but if its gonna be done it might as well be done properly lol.