is it 3 or 4 pin?
and are there 3 wires (even if its a 4pin connector)
and no, its not for me
Rob, what car's it for, I'll have a butchers on EPC for ya.
It's four pin. Don't know what they connect up to though? I haven't got my Emerald book handy, that tells ya.
its for a westfield, going to run caterham ignition lmao
they use citroen packs apparently, but a cav one should work. will look on epc myself, just thought i'd ask
Citroen Coil packs? 3 pin then I think. IIRC my 16v had em.
actually Si, could you have a look at the cav coilpacks as when i go to open any of the coil pages my epc closes
My EPC's gone tits. Where were you looking on it? Engine and clutch? Can't seem to scroll down in the GROUP category.
its 4 pin, yup, got the unused timer plug here from my 196 kit.
depends on which coil pack you are using with regards to "is 1 pin unused"
the unused pin seems to be an earth lead when it is used, if you get my meaning.
lol maybe theres a 'milennium' style useby date built in
opened the omega 20xev one in the end, but cant see the connections
Tis ok, working now. Cannot find coil packs anywhere though. The diagrams for the wiring harnesses are shite.
its in electrical, engine & cooling, ignition coil mate
Found it, but it doesn't seem to give pin numbers.
*zzhooozshhh* cloaking device off.
If you have an amplified coil pack (DIS) then its four pin (used on the C14SE,X14XE,X16XE and the like).
Pin 1 = +12v
Pin 2 = Earth
Pin 3 = Cylinders 1 & 4
Pin 4 = Cylinders 2 & 3
If you have a non amplified coil pack (Usually a Sagem unit on GM, i.e 1.8 Ecotec) then it uses three pins, although the unit has four.
I can't remember which way the numbers go on this unit but the amplified one is numbered 4 3 2 1 as you look at it, I think the non amped ones are the same....in which case:
Pin 2 = +12v
Pin 3 = Cylinders 2 & 3
Pin 4 = Cylinders 1 & 4
thats interesting, cheers.
so (its an old ecu so cant use a laptop to select any internal amp if there is one) perhaps you can ground pin2 and run an amped coilpack with no problems
I'm not sure if thats possible tbh. I think the amped packs are triggered differently to the non amped coil packs, so without a means of changing the ecu you may be stuck.
Not sure if this information is too late.
But if the coil pack is the wasted spark type and made by Sagem Valeo or Siemens then the pins are as follows:
1 - Cylinders 1 and 4 trigger
2 - Cylinders 2 and 3 trigger
3 - Live 12V feed
4 - Not used.
Hope that helps. I dont have the part number to hand but can get it to confirm coils.
it all comes down to whether the caterham vx+45s all ran dizzyless or not from the factory. i dont know hence the which coilpack are we looking at here.
its a very old mbe as well which doesnt help
lmao lmao lmao
bttt any gen?
just read blatchat and you should be able to do a straight ecu swap.
or change to a 16v dizzy as arnie said so it looks neater
On the (8V) dizzy I've got a light blue connector, does this have to be plugged into the 16V dizzy and will it fit ??
no, the mbe uses the crank sensor instead, this connector (which is on the 16v dizzy too) isnt used. hell, mine doesnt even work and its taped up lmao
I'm totally confused now
What will fire the plugs if I ditch the coil and Siemens unit ?
Last edited by DAZ 4; 24-03-2003 at 19:05.