Vectra Urgent Help Req. Hydro Clutch Wont Bleed

[gareth bowers]

OK MY HEADS BATTERED N REG VECTRA, STARTED TO BECOME A LITTLE DIFFICULT GETTING INTO GEAR SO ME THINKING I WAS CLEVER THOUGHT OH ILL JUST BLEED THE CLUTCH. SO THINKING SHOULD BE THE SAME TECHNIQUE AS FOR BRAKES I UNDONE THE NIPPLE WITH ME MATE AT THE PEDDLES... NOW THE PEDDLES HIT THE DECK AND I CANNY GET THE PRESSURE BACK ON. ANYONE GOT ANY TIPS ON HOW TO BLEED THE DARN THING...ALSO TRIED AN EASY BLEEDER.......HELPLESSS

[Steve Heley]

I had to do one on a Vectra 2.0 16v.. same problems as your having.. had to change the servo thing on the clutch pedal, and the slave thing in the gearbox...

It was a right bugger of a job.. £300 for bits from the dealers, and the gearbox had to come off..

Never again..

[Trevor]

It is the same as doing brakes really. Often, as the flud is higher than the bleed nipple you can just let gravity do the job for you.

It does sound like your seals have gone on the master cylinder though. Bleeding won't help.

[gareth bowers]

I HOPE NOT...... HOW HARDS IT TO CHANGE THE MASTER CYLINDER

[Steve Heley]

It's all fairly straight forward. Just takes a while to do.

[gareth bowers]

jus had a look under the bonnet, seems pretty difficult to get at the cylinder, does the servo etc have to come off, hows that done? or is it done from inside the car.... when i pump the peddle, i can feel suction and blowing from the bleed nipple? is this right. i even tried connecting a master cylinder off a motor bike to the inlet tube from the resevoir and pumped it up but still got nothing out the nipple!!! is it possible to convert to a cable system... how would it be done?

All help is very much appreciated people!!

[Trevor]

OK forget what I said about the master for now.

If you have pressurised the system with a pressure bleeder you should have got fluid through. Even if the master was goosed.

So, let's go back to the start.

1. There is fluid in the reservoir

2. The engine is running

3. The bleed nipple is opened

4. Press down pedal and hold down

5. The bleed nipple is closed

6. The pedal is released

Repeat until fluid comes out of the nipple. If you have done this and no fluid then there is a blockage in the pipes or one is kinked.

When you say you used an easy bleeder was it the type you connect to the spare wheel to force the fluid through?

[Baz007]

Yeah, do wot he said, alternativly, sumtimes (not that i dun many) they r an ARSE 2 bleed on these, soooooooo, if u got time, leave the nipple undun, let gravity take its course!

[gareth bowers]

ok people, erm no im not getting any fluid at all out of the bleed nipple, ive actually took the master cylinder off the car tonight, but not sure on how to check it for correct opperation. ive bodged a small resevoir up and held it higher than the cylinder, when i pump the it, nothing comes out the force side of it, is this right? not even slight suction, of expellation. but in ythe inlet side od the cylinder if i pup it u can feel it sucking and blowing... all help appreciated.,..... dont suppose any ones got a price for a new one have they!

[gareth bowers]

any ideas people

[Dav1d]

Put it all back together. Fill with brake fluid, and bleed brakes.
When satisfied with them , move on to the clutch.
Don't press the clutch, just let the pressure do the work, and don't start the engine either.
No go ?
Replace slave cylinder in the box and the master cylinder, both at the same time (or take your pick and only replace one).

[gareth bowers]

how do i check the master cylinder while its off the car tho.. as i said ive got it off and connected a resevoir uptp it but i get no fluid out of the cylinder when i pump it at all...any suggestions... this is really pi**ing me off now.

[Dav1d]

Check by replacement.

[gareth bowers]

how nice the sweet feel of pressure, replaced master cylinder an all ok whoooooooooo thanks all

[sarahlou]

Ga have u still got the vec?or did the bissies take it of ya ?
Miss ya loads by the way . how is ****ty old liverpool ?

[Vauxnova]

oi woman stop digging old posts
hes nnot been here for at least a year
Last Activity: 19-05-2003 21:15

[sarahlou]

oi woman stop digging old posts
hes nnot been here for at least a year
Last Activity: 19-05-2003 21:15

I know i noticed just after, anyway shut the ***k up he's my brother and iam all the way in australia i aint seen him for 9 months,an carnt remember his email addy so maybe when he gets a email saying someone replied to this thread he will see it .
Then we can get in touch.

So keep ya nosy hole to yaself ***kwit