Corsa C20 Let , knackered

[S.Nelson]

Right , not long had the top end done on the engine , had new valves , valve stem oil seals , new valve guides , etc done and a new timing belt kit as a pulley had sheared and bent the valves , so also put on a z20 let steel head gasket , eventually got it all running etc then had mot work done etc was running really well , not even done more than 300 miles in it since , had a slight oil light prob after a wee while sometimes the light would come on when idleing or it would flicker , but as soon as you touched the throttle it would go away again , so few nights ago had it out a wee spirited drive for 15 mins at the most , everything was fine drove home let it cool down turned it off . fine . next night as it was freezing a thought i would go out and start it up as battery not the best , so turns key , makes a funny metal noise hmmmmm , try starts again and it fires up fine no probs , so let it idle for a bout 20 mins everything fine no oil light or anything turn it off . last night goes out and checks the oil before going to start , oil seems fine not lost any , trys to start makes that funny noise again , but more as if starter was jammed , then batt was going weak , so trys to tow it along the street to bump it in 2nd , front wheels lock up hmmmm , try it one more time as was icy , same thing again locks the wheels up , time to abandon back in driveway anyone any iseas ? bottom end seized ? much would i roughly be looking at to repair a bottom end ? if it can be fixed ? and what parts are needed , or any other suggestions as im stumped and cant get it back over to the guy that usually looks after it at the moment.

[Rs1]

Could be anything that mate, i'd try turning it over by hand first and go from there.

[S.Nelson]

ill be totally honest , how do i do that , got told to try putting a spanner on the bottom pully and trying to see if i can turn engine over ?? am i right in that lol , sorry for my ignorance lol

[DaveC_]

Aye scott , socket on a big bar on the bottom pulley and see if it turns.

If the wheels locked up though i dont hold out much hope.

[bux]

just a guess but from wot youve described.........oil pressure problem maybee!!

[S.Nelson]

cheers i will have a wee look the morra at it see if it will move , doubt it knowing my luck , whats need to fix it ? if its seized ?

[mickappy]

have you got any antifreeze in it? this was my 1st thought. its not frozen is it?

[S.Nelson]

there no antifreeze in it tbh m8 , could it be as simple as that ? or would that have ****ed summin too ? it really is frozen the car !!!

[philip2]

no anti freeze if that cold could possibly crack the block, as you may/should now water expands as it freezes....not good.


but as said see if will turn over by hand!!!

[S.Nelson]

yeah! , will try it tommorow when it light .

[Rich M]

Wouldn't of thought that its frozen ?? as said - try and turn it over with a spanner / ratchet on the crank bolt (easier with the plugs out). If it turns over then check all the timing marks line up.
If it doesn't turn over then looks like you'll have to pull it apart, doesn't sound good tho especially since the oil lights been flickering on.
Long shot but the starter on my diesel 106 sticks sometimes and makes some well dodgy noises on start up, could it be that the starters dodgy and has locked on to the flywheel ?? Unlikely but maybe worth checking before you pull it apart if it doesn't turn over.

[S.Nelson]

yeah , as said it made a dodgy noise before starting the other nite but then fired up , the starter sounds as tho jammed but but could be seized engine . argh bloody cars lol

[philip2]

i was thinking starter...id see about unbolting started too and seeing if will turn over.

as for it freezing...you never know, does happenlmao

[S.Nelson]

well went out today and tried turnin over , got a socket on crank bolt and it turns a couple of teeth then locks , then you can move back couple of teeth then locks , also all the coolent hoses are solid!!! frozen .

[Mark_F]

Bearing in mind, its been -7°C the past few nights in lanarkshire...

[Jack]

If the water's frozen in the pump....

Wait until it's above freezing, then drain the water out and get some proper coolant in it.

[S.Nelson]

yeah its slighty cooler about here just now as its rainin so will give it another check over tommorow and see if anythings defrosted lmao , i doubt i have luck in that way.

[rudd86]

I would say its siezed, ive known of engines siezeing before and the couple of teeth it seems to turn on the flywheel represents very lttle movement on the crank, probably just takeing the slack up on the likes of the rings and gudgeon. could you not get it into a garage and get some sort of heater under it to try and warm things up?

[S.Nelson]

well todays findings , since the car has defrosted shall we say lol , had my mate up and helped me look at it , now as said you can turn engine over slighty till it locks , my mate reckons its sounds like the valves are hitting , when its "locking" also the timing belt seems slack and it looks as though the timing is slightly out !! hmmmm.

[DaveC_]

Sounds like the heads coming off then mate , sounds like the timing belt has jumped when the wheels locked up.

[dave's.cavy]

and a frozen up water pump can cause the timing to slip

[Paul]

there no antifreeze in it tbh m8 , could it be as simple as that ? or would that have ****ed summin too ? it really is frozen the car !!!

Why is there no antifreeze in it?


Paul

[S.Nelson]

tbh mate i never checked it when i got it back running the first time it was away getting fixed , only reason i know now is cause the pipes were solid :!

Dave - shall need to get it over to billy to have a look over and get the damage report 1.3 polo it is for me the now then :lol: