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    3 Part Driveshafts onto a GTE 16V

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    quality experimental project there.

    ive never really understood the purpose of this setup ?? whats the deal with the helper shaft ?

    as far as i see it, it doesnt add up to equal length driveshafts, it just makes unequal length driveshafts, one with a join in the middle ! more stuff to brake !

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    Originally posted by 0ddball
    quality experimental project there.

    ive never really understood the purpose of this setup ?? whats the deal with the helper shaft ?

    as far as i see it, it doesnt add up to equal length driveshafts, it just makes unequal length driveshafts, one with a join in the middle ! more stuff to brake !
    The theory is, the flexible section of the drivehsafts are the same length, so giving equal torque effects due to the angle of the shafts from the line of the diff.
    Supposed to reduce torque steer.
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    Certainly made a noticeable difference when I drove Heley's car...
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    Can't tell at the moment with the GTE.

    I'v3 changed Struts, springs, Tie rod ball joints, and wishbone ball joints.

    Tracking is miles out.

    Steering locks over to the left or right, when turning.
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    but i thought some of the torque steer was due to a shorter shaft being easier to turn. having this setup wont change that.

    doesnt steve heleys have a quaiffe slipper ?

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    isnt it due to the longer shaft flexing under the force of tourqe ?

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    I'm sure it's down to the angle of the driveshafts.

    a greater angle from the diff line, will need more force input to give the same force output.

    Having different angles (longer shaft) gives different losses in the driveshaft.
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    I have equal length driveshafts on my Nova Turbo, haven't drove it yet but I will see if its any good when I do.
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    Originally posted by Mark CDX V6
    I'm sure it's down to the angle of the driveshafts.

    a greater angle from the diff line, will need more force input to give the same force output.

    Having different angles (longer shaft) gives different losses in the driveshaft.

    Yes, correct. As the CV joint goes through its angular range the efficiency at which it transmits torque varies. The greater the angle, the lower the efficiency. Keeping the driveshafts between CV joints the same length means that they both have the same angular range and therefore the same losses.

    I would like equal length ones on my astra. Are they had to find?

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    i assume as they are relatively new addition that you cant get ABS'less versions ?

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    they were initally used on the cav gsi oddball i think and that was the only car they were used on, correct me if i am wrong

    and seeing as all gsi's had ABS i would expect your right

    but whats wrong with having the rings and not? qold you not be able to fit a non abs CV joint to this shaft?

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    aaah yeah. i wasnt thinking fourth dimensionally.

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    they are fitted toi cav gsi's, cally 16v's and cav sri's fitted with th xe, thats it.

    i get torque steer in mine, but its not 1 sided, it chenges from side to die at times, so iit does reduce the left wheel from spinng up, they usally spin together

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    Originally posted by jamie_f
    they are fitted toi cav gsi's, cally 16v's and cav sri's fitted with th xe, thats it.
    and also Cally 2.0 8v's, cos' my Red one has them before I converted it to a 16v
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    so whats in that bracket ? is it some kind of hub style bearing ?

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    yea, its just got a bearing in it, thats about it

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    mmmm, chink chink chink, the cogs are whiiring away.

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    I run this set up on my corsa in the dry there is virtualy
    no torque steer and the wet its like jamie_f's both wheels
    spin up and you get a bit of left to right action but its very
    controlable .
    The abs ring just chaps off the cv joint I had to remove mine as they fowled the corsa steering knukle,s'pose this is what the spacer that come with M tech shafts is for.
    blagh blagh blagh

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    I got these from an Ecotec Calibra.
    My wife's Ecotec Astra doesn't have them, and I'm pretty sure Ecotec Cavaliers don't. (not noticed them anyway)

    There's Ecotec and XE Cally's at my local scrappy, so anyone in essex will find some easily.

    V6s also have them but the bearing bracket is different. (4 bolts instead of 2)
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    Am I the only one that sort of likes torque steer?
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    Originally posted by Cemesis
    Am I the only one that sort of likes torque steer?
    says he with quaiffe LSD.

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    Originally posted by Mark CDX V6
    There's Ecotec and XE Cally's at my local scrappy, so anyone in essex will find some easily.
    Which is your local scrappy Mark? How much did you pay for the lot?

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    Originally posted by Stefan
    Which is your local scrappy Mark? How much did you pay for the lot?

    Cheers

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