Who Supplies PC Components?

[Dave GSiT]

Looking for some one in the Eastern region who can help supply and maybe build me either a new PC or upgrade my existing one.

Preferably local (eastern region) making delivery and gen communication easier.

At a minimum I expect to need an External hard disc (or a mother of an internal one), Ninja graphics card with lots of on borad memory and certainly a gig of Motherboard Ram.

This machine is primarily for games playing, also would like some advice in how to improve online performance (ping) to reduce lag.

Can anyone help?

Dave

[GSI Rob]

PC world lmao

[Dave GSiT]

bttt

[Jack]

I'm not very east, but I certainly don't mind giving you some advice.

Ping is 98% dependant on your ISP and where the server you're connecting to is, I'm afraid.

[Dave GSiT]

Think my ping is fairly far from the local exchange. Had a few issues connecting originally. Out of interest, im running two PC's on a wireless network.

PC 1 is plugged straight into the router.

PC 2 Is communicating through a wireless sender.

Would PC 2 be slower?

What do you advise graphics card wise at the moment?

[Jack]

Yes, PC number 2 would have a lot longer ping.

What sort of price range have you got? What games do you play? Do you want to go SLI, or just one card?

AGP or PCI-express?

[Drizz]

Looking for some one in the Eastern region who can help supply and maybe build me either a new PC or upgrade my existing one.

Preferably local (eastern region) making delivery and gen communication easier.

At a minimum I expect to need an External hard disc (or a mother of an internal one), Ninja graphics card with lots of on borad memory and certainly a gig of Motherboard Ram.

This machine is primarily for games playing, also would like some advice in how to improve online performance (ping) to reduce lag.

Can anyone help?

Dave

*Geek alert* lmao

[Dave GSiT]

Yes, PC number 2 would have a lot longer ping.

What sort of price range have you got? What games do you play? Do you want to go SLI, or just one card?

AGP or PCI-express?

Not sure of the tech speak mate, but getting into battlefield 2, Battle field 1942. and they are seriously memory and graphcs hungry

[Jack]

They're quite old games.

I remember being asked to test 1942 on a machine we'd just built at the PC shop I did work experience at, when I was still at school. I spend 9 hours playing it.

[Dave GSiT]

Maybe a bit old but still hungry! Doom3 is another good example!

[NIFFER022]

there not that hungry mate tbh.... doom3 is weak ass game too....

if your computer can play the likes of.. fear/oblivian and the other stupidly high spec'd games then its ok....

and also if your computer can play LFS (live for speed) with a nice steady fps then your on too a winner.. as that games hugely cpu hungry compaired to the others which of more gfx greedy.....


theres a lad selling a nice gaming system on here, hes put it on ebay... very nice for the price

[Dave GSiT]

Yeah but would rather add to my existing one which is still quite good, runs doom 3 quite well unless the screen gets packed. Im also trying to do my best to upgrade my ping, but looks like as long as my games machine is on wireless connection, its always going to be bad.

Any other suggestions about how to improve ping?

[NIFFER022]

Yeah but would rather add to my existing one which is still quite good, runs doom 3 quite well unless the screen gets packed. Im also trying to do my best to upgrade my ping, but looks like as long as my games machine is on wireless connection, its always going to be bad.

Any other suggestions about how to improve ping?

get a faster connection, make the gaming machine the main connection, iv got 2 systems running off my router (wired) the second ones a server so it always on and always been used... but tbh it dont affect my ping.... just make sure your not downloading anything, oh and i turn msn off too while playing online... also dont have windows media player running while playing games thats a huge system drainer.... if your like me and likes too listen to tunage while playing online.... download.. foobar 2000


what connection you got now.... ??

[Dave GSiT]

I always turn everything off while gaming anyway, much prefer the dakka dakka dakka of heavy machine guns through my 7 speaker surround and 12" sub

Just a normal BT Broadband set up at the moment, not optimised or any special gaming package.

Can't make the gaming machine the main connection because its down stairs as my folks use it, so has to stay the main machine as thats where the BB line comes in (so im told).

[NIFFER022]

I always turn everything off while gaming anyway, much prefer the dakka dakka dakka of heavy machine guns through my 7 speaker surround and 12" sub

Just a normal BT Broadband set up at the moment, not optimised or any special gaming package.

Can't make the gaming machine the main connection because its down stairs as my folks use it, so has to stay the main machine as thats where the BB line comes in (so im told).

what games you suffering for lag with.... and are you playing in uk servers you some that are thousands of miles away... you prob know this already but the further away like (kasicstan) will dramaticlly increase your ping as its got far to travel.... wheres your modem?? if its near any electrical supplys turn it off and move it away, i know it sounds stupid but it can affect hoe the modem/router works.... how olds the router/modem maybe a firmware upgrade is needed.....

when you say standard connection what is it.. 512/1 meg/ 2meg or better....

if you can afford it and your line will take it get a better connection. iv got 8meg with tiscali and pay £17.99 a month, i never ever suffer from lag...

[Dave GSiT]

Not sure of my connection speed but im sure there are better deals out there in terms of speed vs price. Hate Tiscali with a passion as they really dicked me around for ages so am not even going to consider calling them.

The router sits quite near the multiplug that all the PC equipment runs from if that counts?

I dont normally play in foreign servers but not always easy to tell.

DOW - Broken down into european servers etc so nice and easy,
MOHAA - Never can tell
BF2 / BF1942 - Never can tell

Others would be empire at war, doom 3... not tried those yet.

[NIFFER022]

yeah id unplug the modem and move it too a better location. plug it back in and try again...

also hows it connected via eithernet or usb... imo i found running it via eithernet alot better..

[Dave GSiT]

Ethernet mate.

[NIFFER022]

Ethernet mate.

ok well keep us posted about your ping and if it improves.. also you could ring bt or who ever your with and ask why its so high..

do you notice any differance the more player that are online???

[j17sparky]

Get the feck off Tiscali. Worst reputation out of all the ISPs

et a wired connection, you will NEVER get near a wired connections ping.

The bandwidth of the connection has nothing to do with your ping, strictly speaking anyway, but IME more bandwidth gets you better ping - but im talking 512kb -> 1mb so your probably already past that anyway.


PC-
CPU - AMD socket AM2. Any Athlon will do

Motherboard - Everyone has their preferance, mine is ASUS. But gigabyte and MSI are still good makes. You dont need SLI/Crossfire tbh as its better to spend all the money on a single GFX card then buy 2 cheaper ones.

RAM - DDR2 6400. 2 sticks of 512mb or if you want to run vista 2 x 1gb. Id go for crucial as you can go on their website and make sure the RAMS compatible with your motherboard.

GFX card - Spend as much or as little as you like. Well id say minimum of £50-60. Ive got an NVidea 7600gs which overclocks to 160% of its standard speed - very capible of running NFSC, Halflife 2, FarCry etc with 90% of the detail settings turned upto max. You'll have to decide ATI (Crossfire) or NVidea (SLI) - i like NVidea, others like ATI.

Harddrive - SATA2

The rest is upto you. All of the above could be bought for around £300. I wouldnt recommend paying much more than £400 as you start getting into the geeks territory and the "Bang per Buck" starts to go drematically down.

[Dave GSiT]

Nice one Sparky, What about CPU? Been advised for a Pentium 4 duel core...

[j17sparky]

CPU its down to personal preferance. I like AMD as they are the best value for money imo. Id recommend any Athlon Socket AM2 - if you want to go dual core then thats upto you, but im running a 3200 socket 939 (old socket) and it runs everything ive thrown at it perfectly well.

Just had a lok and the best value for money to me looks like between the AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ and the 4200.


Intel - i dont have a clue as ive not owned one since 1996. But i can say DO NOT buy a celeron, you'd be better off buying a couple of hamsters and a wheel.

[Jack]

I prefer AMD as well. Always a great price and always awesome performance.

Especially when you can buy a 64 X2 dual core FX62 for £250.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=CP-173-AM

[intikab]

Right now, Intel dual core outperforms AMD but these things change all the time.
I'd probably start by asking 'how big is your budget?' because it all depends on how much money you can throw at this. It's much like tuning a car. A performance games machine needs performance components, not just your normal stock item. CPU, memory, hard drives, graphics cards etc. etc.

www.Overclockers.co.uk will certainly get you decent components.

Also bear in mind that a performance PC MAY get quite noisy because of the extra cooling needed for graphics and CPU etc. But you could go the watercooling route...

Let's start with Intel Core 2 Duo CPU, decent motherboard with dual graphics options e.g. SLI, crossfire (stick with the brand names), performance RAM (see overclockers), compatible graphics card(s). Minimum 400 quid for this but I suggest nearer 600 quid.

Add to this uprated CPU cooler, SATA hard drive(s) - (RAID 0 for performance?) etc. and you add another few hundred to the mix!

I am in Chelmsford so if you are nearby we could have a chat sometime. Otherwise PM me if you want more info.

[Dave GSiT]

Or you could come to our regional meets? lmao