Replacing Bathroom Floor - Days 1-7.

[couped]

Good stuff dan, just be carefull in taking boiler casings off as some models come with sealing washers that must be replaced.

[MSG]

MSG and JO4NNY8...... a bath trap is 1" 1/2 allowing for 1"1/2 waste pipe connections and fittings, a sink waste is 1"1/4. Two different sizes and in jonny8 defence the pic hes posted is that of acorrect 1"1/2 bath trap which you do get various types, and msg theres no way you can convert a 1"1/4 sink waste to fit a bath!.. dnt tell me your a plumber because your giving us honest worker in the game a bad name!

I fit at least 3 bathrooms a month and have only ever used in my 17yrs experience silicone on the steel parts when putting a trap together,the sealing washer is there for a reason, in the 8 years ive owned my own buisness ive never had a comeback or leak.

Sorry Couped , I couldn't tell if it was 1 1/4" or 1 1/2" BSP outlet purely looking at the picture, both look similar unless placed against each other or some scale in the back ground, only then i could have easily defined the difference in the sizes, However most bath traps commonly available are the centre screw type, what the are also know as the combined drain type. If you check Wickes, they only stock the centre screw type unless I don't know if other stores like B&Q might do the metal ones with a large nut in 1 1/2" BSP. Hence almost all traps that I have come across in my life have all been the single screw type. I have seen some larger ones used in bigger kitchens using large stainless steel bowls, where I have seen these in use. And to say the least almost everyone that I saw only because it had a leak, and I have fixed many such leaks basically using silicone sealant, but the flat i was talking about was a complete nightmare.


The acess to the underside was very restricted as I could just get squeesed betwen the tub and the loo pan, so it was a real pain in thge neck, however its now all sorted. thanks any ways.

[couped]

Sorry Couped , I couldn't tell if it was 1 1/4" or 1 1/2" BSP outlet purely looking at the picture, both look similar unless placed against each other or some scale in the back ground, only then i could have easily defined the difference in the sizes, However most bath traps commonly available are the centre screw type, what the are also know as the combined drain type. If you check Wickes, they only stock the centre screw type unless I don't know if other stores like B&Q might do the metal ones with a large nut in 1 1/2" BSP. Hence almost all traps that I have come across in my life have all been the single screw type. I have seen some larger ones used in bigger kitchens using large stainless steel bowls, where I have seen these in use. And to say the least almost everyone that I saw only because it had a leak, and I have fixed many such leaks basically using silicone sealant, but the flat i was talking about was a complete nightmare.


The acess to the underside was very restricted as I could just get squeesed betwen the tub and the loo pan, so it was a real pain in thge neck, however its now all sorted. thanks any ways.

What about a pop up waste?......a click waste?.... totaly different, in the pic posted you can clearly tell its a sink waste due to the size of the overflow outlet above the threads!

[couped]

No needto say sorry buddy, just feel the thread makes you look an arse because you got some wire crossed and didnt fully understand what you were talking about.

Simple really-LEAVE THE PLUMBING TO THE PLUMBERS!..LOL

[MSG]

sure I did not get any wires crossed, because someone brought in the outlet that I wasn't even talking about in the first place,

So when I was discussing how I stopped a leak on my shallow plastic trap with a centre screw, why then bring in the metal 1 1/2" BSP outlet and then try to explain to me how easy it is to seal that one.

[Benn]

Simple really-LEAVE THE PLUMBING TO THE PLUMBERS!..LOL

Funk that, this thread shows that with a bit of brains that anyone can do it.

[anniman1]

. If you check Wickes, they only stock the centre screw type unless I don't know if other stores like B&Q might do the metal ones with a large nut in 1 1/2" BSP. The acess to the underside was very restricted as I could just get squeesed betwen the tub and the loo pan, so it was a real pain in thge neck, however its now all sorted. thanks any ways.

And you wonder why you always have problems. theres your problem right there. why do you think you have plumbers merchants. the pain in the neck is why plumbers make good money, that and touching your waste pipes full of your sh*te

[Frisco]

Funk that, this thread shows that with a bit of brains that anyone can do it.

Until something goes wrong

[Benn]

Until something goes wrong

Most that can go wrong is a leak..

[couped]

Most that can go wrong is a leak..

Yea, on a boiler casing which is sealed for a reason, mind you it wouldnt take long until nod land kicked in! and the old bill were knocking the door down a fortnight later because the neigbours complained about the smell of your dcomposed body rotting away.

That is gas side of things, but plumbing wise the diy enthusiast will have no prob.

[couped]

And you wonder why you always have problems. theres your problem right there. why do you think you have plumbers merchants. the pain in the neck is why plumbers make good money, that and touching your waste pipes full of your sh*te

The only plumbers that make a good living are those in london and bigger citys, mainly because there robbing twats!.lol... My mate charged customers £300 for coming out and switching there water main off during the xmas period, hes based in london. Where is i run around like a headless chicken charging £60 on xmas eve and fixing the leak in the process.... mind you that customer is still due!..

For the work dan done and what he needed done i would have set him back at least £280-300 max inc fittings and materials, the bath and ware would be customer supplied.

[MSG]

Just get a CO detecter if anyone is undually worried about CO fumes leaking from their boiler, a good digital readout one cost less than 16 quid made by Kidde Model No 900-0260, and works brilliant as it can detect CO levels right down to 11 parts per Million.

[Astra Dan]

I'm not worried about CO, cos I know the flue is not blocked, in good condition and the fan works a treat!

[jamied]

crist i have fitted about 6 boilers over the past 8 months with no problems and all were tested by my plumber mate after fitting with no remedial work. Dan when was you thinking of tiling..might have something of interest for you.

[Astra Dan]

Er, years probably!

[Frisco]

For most things diy is worth a bash.

All im saying is be careful when it comes to boilers, as couped said earlier on some boilers the front cover is part of the combustion chamber so if its not resealed correctly you can have serious trouble.
The flue doesn't have to be blocked for CO to be a problem and its still illegal to open them even if its your house. Nobody will know until someone gets hurt/killed (which is a very real possibility)

[Joe-2LT]

Hey Dan, any other plans for the bathroom? I.e. are you re-tiling it etc?

[Astra Dan]

Might do eventually but as said the whole room will need re-plastering, so will leave it for a year or so yet.

[wayne451]

I don't care what has been said, MSG is GOD!

[MSG]

I am no God, come on Wayne! but I have developed immunity to ugly remarks and abuse. I can't help if some people have got more testostrone than intelligence.lmao

[TINTIN]

I am no God, come on Wayne! but I have developed immunity to ugly remarks and abuse. I can't help if some people have got more testostrone than intelligence.lmao

And if that wasn't an open invite for a cyber drop kick i dont know what is lmao

[MSG]

Ouch! that flippin hurt now!!lmao

[Ed]

Funk that, this thread shows that with a bit of brains that anyone can do it.

Yeah exactly. I completely renovated my place, having had no prior experience. I just read a lot and asked advice from mates in the trade. I did:

Total rewire from consumer unit up
Fitted boiler
Fitted Central Heating
New Kitchen
New Bathroom

Al cables and pipes hidden, and this is in a place with concrete floors, so wasn't easy.

Only labour I paid for was Gas Safe guy who connected gas to my boiler, and the carpet fitter.

[vantastic007]

What about the rules that came in to force in 2005 about not doing wiring unless you are qualified?
If you come to sell it or there is a fire and insurance claim, won't there be a few questions to answer? I'm not being funny or anything, as I do my own wiring (did the whole of my last house - pre 2005), but have been put off a bit by the legislation.

[Ed]

My mate's dad is a qualified electrician and told me exactly what to do. I did exactly as he said and he tested it afterwards and issued me the certificate. Job done.