People of migweb please help!!!

[corsa_sri]

My friends workshops are going to be taken over and flattered and made into houses. That will cause many problems for people living close and puts loads of local businesses out on their arse's if they get the go ahead. Please help prevent this please as i been going there for years. Heres some of the projects and cars that have been worked on. If you can just spare the time to help just sign the petition that be great as many of you people on migweb know how important it is to have a small backstreet garage to give you good cheap work and mods.

heres the pic's of some projects and cars that use this garage





























HERES THE PETITION PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE SIGN IT THANKS FOR READING

Sign the Petition: Rainbow Industrial Estate - Flawed Draft Planning Brief (Shas Sheehan )

[Craig-S]

Whos jaw hit the desk when they saw the first picture of the yellow mini?

Il sign it.

[Paul]

Who owns the site?

[corsa_sri]

thanks mate

[corsa_sri]

it is a local lib dem mp's website

[Craig-S]

I think he means the land. Yes?

[Paul]

Yeah the land.

[Turbodave]

Assuming the businesses are above board and legit then surely they have some sort of legal right to fight the decision or failing that, will be in line for relocation or compensation of some sort. I don't think an online petition will do much, I'd be off investigating the legalities of it all first. Unless of course it's privately owned land and these businesses rent an area/unit and the land owner has opted to sell. In which case, if it's all cash in hand/below the radar then tough and if it's all declared, then time to start reading the small print in the terms and conditions of the lease. Likewise if it's council owned land. If your man owns the land, the building and so on then I'm unsure if they can force his hand easily but compulsory buying can come into play but I thought that was for public service projects only, not the likes of a housing estate unless it's government body driven?

Impressive builds none the less...

[Kev_G]

Id love more info on this -

[MSG]

It is not very clear if I understood the petition, I understand your argument about a developer trying to convert the place into residential accomodation, by knocking this little industrial estate.

But the peteition is arguing about the number of jobs the site might create? I think what it said was that the site currently employs around 45 people whereas it has the potential to employ 100,
and where vI am confused is that how is it going to employ 100 people if it gets converted to residential development apart from employing building contractors for a year or so while it is being constructed, so I am not sure weather we are going to petition for it or against it as the petetion does not make it very clear or one needs brains the size of a whale's testicle to understand legal mumbo jumbo!

Edited, sorry i read again and understood a little better, (Sorry if my brain is a bit smaller than a whle's testicals) so i have now sighed it and sent it , but unfortunately I can't provide any of my mate's email addresses without their permission.

[corsa_sri]

basically this petition helps us on are side to stop them taking over but kev the engine is a 1;6 16v from a tigra. My friend machines the head to use a metro turbo distributor and a metro turbo carb running a de compression plate with a t28 roller bearing off a s15 200sx runninb 26psi and very powerful

[Paul]

I'm still a little lost.

Who owns the land?
Who does he pay rent to?

[Allvaux]

I'll sign if he promises to take that hideous bodykit off that Mini.

[wayne451]

I am sorry and I know I will be accused of trolling here but I fail to see the problem?

Why are you fighting your 'mates' battles? If he owns the land, he will be quids in if it falls to a CPO. If he doesn't and he simply rents it then, well, that's rental. You are a mere tennant. Even the petition you link to admits it's a degenerating area so if the land can be of better use then I say good luck to them.

If he owns the land he will be compensated, if he doesn't he can rent elsewhere. Places that do stuff like that are far more capable of relocating as they are not reliant on passing trade. People will travel for bespoke custom work, any Tom, Dick and Harry can do an oil and filter change. It's the sort of business that if it has a reputation it can relocate.

[Paul]

Nothing wrong with your point Wayne, was awaiting some more clarification before making the same point.

[keithcdb]

Its the same everywhere, unit I am in is to be flattened for a carpark to be used for the nice new flats. Not many units that are allowed to be used for car type things these days

[MSG]

I think your mate will end up loosing the battle against the owners/developers and the Local council, who are all in it to make the place spruce up, and get rid of what they consider ugly industrial units amidst the best landscape (Epsom Surrey is one of the most sought after areas surrounding London) and hence why they could be looking at a small prade of shops/offices and studio flats above it, it enhances the reputition of the area, and these planners, including the local council will give no regards to what goes on in that indurial estate, they consider that to be an eyesore thing, which is obviously wrong, as it gives people like your mate the hassle to relocate and or find another alternative place close by and for the same rental costs.

I see your point, it will be bloody battle if you do win this one!

[corsa_sri]

the unit is not in epsom its nearby but it is rented but there if you look at their plans what they have to do just to get the house/flats done they cause alot of problems for the local area and will have to buy a few resdential houses. The reason i do this because he is a good friend of mine and he has had his business for 17 years there. Also done most my mods to my nova there and also bulit his v8 mini. Also he is a local decent mechanic in the area helping lots people out that can't affore high end garages or main dealers. So it be nice to keep this unit and have a future

[Paul]

Who is it rented from though?

Does he have a lease or is he paying cash?

[corsa_sri]

the land is owned by some northern chap and he is on a lease. I don't really want a debut about all off this as im not the sort of person for that im jus trying to help out

[Paul]

Ah, well, wonder when his lease runs out then?

[MSG]

I have got a feeling that there is absolutely nothing that any of our petitions will help your mate or have any effect on the decision taken by his local council and the land owner/developers, it is the people who live in the immediate vacinity and the current occupiers who can impact the decision, since it will be the people directly effected by this development.

I signed on the e-petition, I have now received an email from the Lib Dem campaigner standing up for your concern, and have now been asked to provide my address, therefore this means any petitions raised by people not living in or around the area may not even be considered.


I bet it is some developers who saw the potential of that site, and approached the land owner for a new development scheme, where the owner will not have to fork out a penny and will get more for his land than is currently worth! You can't stop some rich and greedy individuals and companies, you could prolong the developers scheme by chellenging and appealing against the planning application, failing which you could organise sit in protest, barricades, letting the developers and the owners know that you won't be leaving that site easily, they may drop the plan if they knew how much legal costs this may incurr. (Courts, bailiffs, and so on)

If the lease has not run out yet, they surely can't evict any of you until then.

[Ed]

Jokes aside, those are some very impressive creations, and it would be a shame to see a garage like this be forced to pack it all in. Could your mates not just find new premises?

[Craig-S]

^ This.

Hopefully they turned a good profit and can afford to buy a Unit on a piece of land one way or another instead of renting. It is a shame, and a little unfair, But life's not fair, so they might as well start looking now.

[MSG]

Cars and garages are hated everywhere, when i applied to my local council to knock down the front room downstairs (my living room) and make a garage, they refused me the planning on the bases that my garage would look like a sore thumb amongst the 1930s Victorian terraces, In the days of the Victorians, they didn't think far ahead that one day we would need to mod our cars in our living rooms!

Also I was told that I will need permission from the highways agency to make a drop curb, and not many are now allowed due to danger it creates for the pedestrians, when pulling in or out!