4x4 veccy??

**Grim Reaper** · 10-07-2006 22:07

how come a 4x4 veccy was never made??? vaux/opel made 4x4 cavs and they were popular so why not do this with the veccy????

(im just curious

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**Rusty CallyT** · 10-07-2006 22:09

hmm, could be down to the cost and also the huge problems that people had with the old 4x4 systems.. i dunno tho, could always mke your own with a broken cav turbo

**Jasovanooo** · 10-07-2006 22:10

would get raped by almost anyother 4 x 4, cost, reliability (theres a reason calibras/cavs are so cheap)

**Dave Hay** · 10-07-2006 22:10

because the 4 wheel drive system they made was ****e and expensive to fix!

simple as really lol

vaux want to make cheap cars and sell for as much ££££ as poss. no point having a car that the majority of the market knows gonna break. of course the minority will argue (enthusiasts replies argueing prooves it

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**Rusty CallyT** · 10-07-2006 22:12

never had a problem with my 4x4

**Tathan** · 10-07-2006 22:15

I think saying Vauxhall made a 4x4 Cav is pushing it tbh lmao

**Grim Reaper** · 10-07-2006 22:16

yeh but with the problems that they had in the past could be used as a goal to do better :confued: (learn from your mistakes)

**Tathan** · 10-07-2006 22:17

Vauxhall don't learn from their mistakes though, have you ever driven a Corsa C?

**Dave Hay** · 10-07-2006 22:18

to redeisgn a 4 wheel drive system costs a hell of a lot of money..........

on top of that you would have to be sure the model was a good seller and the market wanted it.

not vauxhalls market at all.........

**Davcohen** · 10-07-2006 22:42

couldnt they just upgrade the components and automate fuse 19 lol

**Dave Hay** · 10-07-2006 22:44

ooooh i forgot to add........if vaux could redesign a decent 4wheel drive system they wouldnt have had to go to cosworth to build theyre best engines or have lotus design theyre best cars lol

**Tathan** · 10-07-2006 23:17

Vauxhall didn't design the transfer box

**Grim Reaper** · 11-07-2006 11:55

Originally Posted by tathan

Vauxhall don't learn from their mistakes though, have you ever driven a Corsa C?

yeh i drive that (instructors car and a mate of mine has one) and i think they are ok but i dont like the seating possition because i cant see all around the car properly...maybe because its the 3 doors version??

**Grim Reaper** · 11-07-2006 11:56

Originally Posted by Dave Hay

to redeisgn a 4 wheel drive system costs a hell of a lot of money..........

on top of that you would have to be sure the model was a good seller and the market wanted it.

not vauxhalls market at all.........

**Nemesis** · 11-07-2006 12:03

The actual reason was, the Vectra B was based on a platform that didn't have a 4x4 option.

Whereas the Calibra/Cav was built on the J-platform, which did

People slate the Cav/Cally Turbo, but they are the quickest and most stable Vauxhalls of that era and actually proved good cars... which is more than can be said about the Nova or Corsa.

**Dave Hay** · 11-07-2006 12:04

take your head out your ass

or would you like a glass stomach?

**Nemesis** · 11-07-2006 12:09

Originally Posted by Dave Hay

take your head out your ass

The figures speak for themselves mate. It's a fact, not an opinion.

**Dave Hay** · 11-07-2006 14:04

show me the figures then.

**Mr M3** · 11-07-2006 14:40

Cheap and cheerful, like the lack of rwd motors too.
Keep putting more and more power through the front wheels. Is a nice balance though, fronts for steering, rears for propulsion. With 4x4/rwd, have the better weight distribution too.
Astra Vxr in rwd, wouldn't mind one of them

**mr cheese** · 11-07-2006 15:05

Originally Posted by Dave Hay

ooooh i forgot to add........if vaux could redesign a decent 4wheel drive system they wouldnt have had to go to cosworth to build theyre best engines or have lotus design theyre best cars lol

what you mean like ford did lol

**Mr M3** · 11-07-2006 15:10

Originally Posted by mr cheese

what you mean like ford did lol

Quite successful though huh?

**Dave Hay** · 11-07-2006 15:18

Originally Posted by mr cheese

what you mean like ford did lol

pretty much exactly like ford did.........

rs heritage vs vaux gte there is no comparison in terms on engineering/motor sport

if vaux only spent a wee bit more on design theyde have had some cracking motors that not just us enthusiasts buy and fix

**Grim Reaper** · 11-07-2006 16:23

Originally Posted by Chavtastic

The actual reason was, the Vectra B was based on a platform that didn't have a 4x4 option.

Whereas the Calibra/Cav was built on the J-platform, which did

People slate the Cav/Cally Turbo, but they are the quickest and most stable Vauxhalls of that era and actually proved good cars... which is more than can be said about the Nova or Corsa.

why cant they do the same design chassis platform again...i would have really liked a factory veccy 4x4...and it is true the 4x4 cav/callys were great cars, its just that people dont know how to maintain them...think about it, look at benns nova??? you think it is gonna rust or have a mechanical problem anytime soon?? i dont because he takes care of his car

**Dave Dempsey** · 11-07-2006 17:08

The Vectra C chassis was designed to take 4x4........and as mentioned Vauxhall never built the 4x4, as with a lot of components that all car companies use it was bought in from other manufacturers. Theres also not a lot of call for a 4x4 car in that sector, no other manufacturer really offer it, Fords 4x4 Mondeo was hardly a big success.

**Grim Reaper** · 11-07-2006 17:10

yeh but their cossie 4x4 were a success...and mondeo is not a really nice looking car (not better than a veccy b atleast

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